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exatreide

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I think they wanted maxium security. I mean Cuba is to the north and the sea is to the south. not to mention it would alot more dangerus for us to put them in the middleast

nampigai

nampigai

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I agree with you Fed, they need to show that they treat them with respect, otherwise the allies in the middle east will quickly decrease, they got problems enough with the situation in Israel, where the israelian army are allowed to do what ever they want.

quoudam72

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Good point about the location of the island Ex, I had not given thought to that. Feyd that is true about the treatment of the POWs. The other middle eartern countries will be watching the US and their treatment of the Afgan POWs. You know this is funny because the Arabic nations had tried to talk about race relations last year when the US and Israel walked out of the talks. But let's save this type of discussion for another thread.

nemafakei

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So in the end, the US has no reason to attack the taliban:

Protection of Bin Laden :: Western Political Asylum

Mistreatment of enemies and minorities and enemies :: Cuban prisoners, or racism in US

Dictatorial R

quoudam72

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Nema I for one am not sure were you are going with your statements, maybe they are ment to sound the way they sound.

We all know there is not a nation in the world right now who could offer bin Ladin asylum, not in the eyes of the world without wrath from the US. And no one said they should not have attacked the Taliban, we are talking about the treatment of the Taliban captives.

garth

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If the US is such an "overpowering influence in world affairs" then why did we lose several key court cases in the World Trade Organization?

Its absurd to equate racism in the US to the brutal execution of women in soccer stadiums for not wearing their veils by the Taliban.

"Protection of Bin Laden :: Western Political Asylum"

Name one person the US has granted asylum to that killed about 4,000 innocent civilians in cold blood.

Since you're so sympathetic to those mindless butchers Nema, maybe you should strongly consider taking a one way ticket to what little territory the Taliban controls in Afghanistan.

TMA_1

TMA_1

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Nema is right though in many ways. America is not in this for righteousness. If that was so. We would go into iran, egypt, syria and many other terrorist harboring countries. We dont do it because those countries are important in either exports or in peace. You dont agree with me then you should look up the statistics yourself. Afghanistan doesnt offer us a whole lot compared to other countries. Nothing to not fight them for. We have become our own worst enemy. A world police force. If any of you know what it means to be american its to be independant. We never show that anymore.

garth

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The war is not over yet, we may be going into places like Iran, Syria, Egypt, etc.

Iraq and the Phillipines are probably the top on the list now.

"America is not in this for righteousness."

So retaliating against the greedy band of thugs harboring a mass murderer isn't righteous?

exatreide

exatreide

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Listen. Dubya swore to fight and elimenate terror in one of his speches. Afganistan was whare bin-laden was thought to be. Not to mention he had many terrorist training grounds there and the taliban was sympathetic to there cause. We are also in Somila by the way.

TMA_1

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Because we attack independant nations for things like war crimes and worries of national security. That isnt independance. There is always going to be independance in america but outside we father other nations. This is internationalism and stinks of evil that america wasnt founded on. If any of you guys are dumb enough to agree wtih internationalism then you should live in another country. Since you are free though you can believe what you want. I just get angered when people defend what shouldnt be defended. We probably wont invade other countries that are important to us. Thats just common sense

alejandro

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I think the conduct of battle has been forgotten along the centuries :'(. Everything is NOT allowed in war.

And this war is only because before 11S. Everybody in US security looks likes an idiot (FBI, CIA, Navy, Army.....)

nemafakei

nemafakei

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"Name one person the US has granted asylum to that killed about 4,000 innocent civilians in cold blood"

I don't have to - the Taliban had only Bush's word on that Bin Laden did it. Hell, the UK's PM didn't find out until well after the US started attacking Taliban. What would you do if an enemy said to you (with no proof as far as you know) that your best ally had just attacked him, and so he was going to try and kill him - you'd defend him, no?

"Its absurd to equate racism in the US to the brutal execution of women in soccer stadiums for not wearing their veils by the Taliban"

Why? Afghanistan is less socially 'developed' than the US - once the blacks would be killed by even the authorities.

"Afganistan was whare bin-laden was thought to be.

Not to mention he had many terrorist training grounds there and the taliban was sympathetic to there cause"

What is the difference between that and the US/UK military?

"Dubya swore to fight and elimenate terror in one of his speches"

PLEASE don't use that as a justification.

garth

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"I don't have to - the Taliban had only Bush's word on that Bin Laden did it. Hell, the UK's PM didn't find out until well after the US started attacking Taliban. What would you do if an enemy said to you (with no proof as far as you know) that your best ally had just attacked him, and so he was going to try and kill him - you'd defend him, no?"

The video tape was shown in Afghanistan where Bin Laden was gloating over his terror strikes on the WTC.  If that isn't proof enough I don't know what else is.  The Taliban has been hiding Bin Laden for ages, of course they know what he's been up to.

"Afghanistan is less socially 'developed' than the US - once the blacks would be killed by even the authorities. "

That is not an excuse for executing people on a whim.  What the US did occurred hundreds of years ago.  The Taliban are living in a modern world with modern methods of communication, they know exactly what they're doing and are butchering the Koran in an effort to justify it.

"What is the difference between that and the US/UK military?"

The US and UK military don't fly commercial liners into civilian buildings for starters.

nemafakei

nemafakei

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"The video tape was shown in Afghanistan where Bin Laden was gloating over his terror strikes on the WTC"

AFTER the US's attack had started!

The taliban hadn't seen any proof before it was too late.

"The Taliban has been hiding Bin Laden for ages"

Since about September 15.

"The US and UK military don't fly commercial liners into civilian buildings for starters"

No, they bomb Red Cross hospitals. And the Afghans don't relly have enough money for their own planes.

"The US and UK military don't fly commercial liners into civilian buildings for starters"

Decades ago. Afghanistan is not in a modern world. It hasn't changed much in hunderds of years.

nampigai

nampigai

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You don't think that the taleban knew of Bin Ladens actions?

About the bombing of red cross hospitals, that's not the only mistakes made but I think it was a mistake, still it doesn't justify it.

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