Emperor Harkonnen Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 I have noticed that Frank Herbert based Dune on arabic culture. But has he involved others as well?If so, which? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted March 17, 2002 Share Posted March 17, 2002 Maybe some spanish culture...like this when Duke Paulus fought with bulls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exatreide Posted March 17, 2002 Share Posted March 17, 2002 Atreides=decentent of Atrus...Greek.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted March 17, 2002 Author Share Posted March 17, 2002 And maybe some russian culture, like how Giedi Prime looks like ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 So russia looks like Giedi Prime? In some movie Russia is showed like dirty something, but I can say it with sure it isn`t. I was there. Maybe Kaliningrad... :-XBy the way, you haven`t seen my backstreet near University of Law :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeydRauttah Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002     Surely Russia does not look like Giedi Prime...No comment on your trivia     I think Frank Herbert included some Jewish motives, like the prophet they are still expecting (the Messiah)     There is also something, which looks to me like the Indian Kama Sutra - that Honored Matre stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 Good point, FeydRautahh, I was thinking about Indian too, when I read book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted March 18, 2002 Author Share Posted March 18, 2002 Cities in russia looks like Giedi Prime, and I know that cos I know people in Moscow. And Tsjernobyl in UkraineDon't talk about things you don't know a shit about >:((no offence)anyway I know that most of russia is beautiful tundra. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 no offence...well, "shit about" is not good word, cos actually I was in Russia. Maybe not there where you were. And I now that Tsjernobyl is like GP, but like you said, in Ukraine. And Poland is like Giedi Prime...with fat president... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted March 18, 2002 Author Share Posted March 18, 2002 lol  Yeah you have got that right Gunseng, Poland ;D. Fat president and stinking factories all over the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 And gallows :-X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardauker-Kirov Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 Sliced Worms and Fremen. People torturing each other and screaming in joy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 This is deviating... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander_Ordos Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 Ok I live near Russia ;) And i can say The Harkonnen have only Russian names that's all and Giedi Prime looks like new york or Lithuania in autumn...Fremen - Arabs mixed with jewish from Israel...Atreides - Spanish and American mix...Tleilaxu - Arabic mentality...Ix - Japan... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 No way, America is too "bush" to be Atreides, you said them compliment, Alexander. But I feel like Fremen are from Arabia. I wrote somewhere"Bin Laden - false Muad`dibTalibs - everyone ho thinks that he isn`t false"And this is truuu, Japan is great Ix with their technology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 My guess is that the Atreides were modeled on the British Royal family in the 60's, and that the Baron on Gen. Franco (The Basques and to an extent the Catalu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander_Ordos Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 Ginaz - Cyprus mixed with ChinaAtreides act like Amreicans - go and kick's someone's ass in the periods between peace keeping ;) besides Caladan looks like Florida or Maliorca... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 But Atreides was noble, has great and long past and what is most important, was fair. America isn`t fair. Bush said other american people they haven`t any problems, lets go kick a** Korea, an in the same time he was trying solve economic problems and recesion  without say a word about those huge problems...and still try...America seems like Corrino in first Dune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander_Ordos Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 Then perhaps America under Clinton... Atreides history starts from err the time when the old terra was abandomed and people scatered across the galaxy... doesn't look long... it hasn't even begun yet ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 Atreides are from Agamemnon. But okay, history of House Atreides as house starts later. But I still can`t imagine American as them...everybody have different opinion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefud Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 Atreides as Americans? Â :PWhat does and American culture knows about monarchy and other king-queen stuff?They seem to me as a mixture of Greek and British civilizations.I think Fremen are definately Arabian-like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampigai Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 Atreides decent from ancient greece, not the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exatreide Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 lets go kick a** Korea? what?freman=arabicAtreides=greekIX=no one. there a group of scientists reamber? they have no house(dont start with the prequl stuff)Harks=Ottoman Empireme=Mix of german/spainish/ukrainen/french(my secret shame  :'( )Corrino........Roman Empire....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander_Ordos Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 Exactly Ex, Corrinos are the copy of Roman empire - Frank never uses pure fantasy in his books something is based on something ::)  ( How can you be sure that Atreides start from acient Greece? It's just SciFi  ;))Harkos Otoman? - that's noway! The Baron is blond like all people of Giedi Prime they'r also noble perhaps not Vladimyr and they are not islam fanatics...Atreides are modern Americans - the history isn't considered... 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exatreide Posted March 23, 2002 Share Posted March 23, 2002 they say in the books(dont reamber witch one.)That The atreides are decendents of greece. Aturus. The ottomans were not fanatacis about islam if you know any thing about history you will know what i mean.....get your facts straight.Whats with the blond hair thing? dont you know any thing about evolution adaption? that sort of riff rough? People change do to the invirement.....shesh..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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