D2K+ Online Tips and Strategies + FAQ

[NaturePower]

I have found a good tip for startup players!

some buildings, like light factory needs like 3x3 tile for full health isnt? nope, it need 3x2!

i had tested it, so when u placing concrete 3x2 like on this image:

And placing light factory on it and click it:

Voila! We have full health light factory now!

It works with:Barracks,Wind Traps, Light Factories, Heavy Factories, Tech buildings and Refineries.

Doesnt work with:Starports, Repair Pads, and buildings that need only one tile.

[fdias]

Thats a pretty old and known trick hehe :)

[Feda]

Still it's better not to use concrete. In this game it's more important to be fast than have strong defenses (like stronger buildings I mean).

[Adriano]

some buildings, like light factory needs like 3x3 tile for full health isnt? nope, it need 3x2!

i had tested it, so when u placing concrete 3x2 like on this image:

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It works with:Barracks,Wind Traps, Light Factories, Heavy Factories, Tech buildings and Refineries.

Doesnt work with:Starports, Repair Pads, and buildings that need only one tile.

Thank you! I saw something like this in video on YouTube about Dune2000 gameplay (Wind Trap on concrete 3x2 ), but I have never tried this. Because I thought that "health" of buldings will be bad.

 

But (!) Heavy Factories and Tech buildings need 3x4, not 3x3.

What do you, NaturePower, build in this case?

[X3M]

They only need 3x3.

You never tried it out?

 

The only reason when I use concrete is when dealing with AI. They use airstrike, fremen and nukes.

It saves most buildings from demise.

But when the moment comes, I mostly have repaired every single building because of spicespam.

 

For windtraps and ®turrets, I always use slabs.

[Adriano]

You never tried it out?

:) I have tried once. In 1-st way (see picture below).

 

[NaturePower]

Actually, 3x2x1 needs for tech and heavy factory buildings. Also, if u want to be fast on online (i havnt played online yet) just use it only for wind traps, pretty useful.

[NaturePower]

Still it's better not to use concrete. In this game it's more important to be fast than have strong defenses (like stronger buildings I mean).

Use only for wind traps. Its pretty useful for it.

[X3M]

concrete + windtrap equals 2 windtraps in energy and health. The option with concrete costs less time and space.

Both options support 2 refineries

[NaturePower]

concrete + windtrap equals 2 windtraps in energy and health. The option with concrete costs less time and space.

Both options support 2 refineries

yep, so wind traps with 2x2 concrete useful in speed, because if u just construct two wind traps without 2x2 concrete = slowin up.

[Feda]

I already mentioned that you should always use concrete under windtraps. There are CERTAIN situations when u could go without (in no rules with a certain build order and rush in mind), but generally always use them with windtraps. Whenever I'm saying "better dont use concrete" I'm talking about other structures, not windtraps :D

 

And to clarify even more on this subject, it's a bad idea to use concrete because of time wasting, not economy. So once you're already in the game (+8 mins, full base - this means stable economy and x3 production facilities), and for example you're going to set an expansion, it's actually even advised to upgrade CY and use the 3x3 concrete under the buildings u place in the expansion. Why? You're no longer in need to hurry because u have stable economy and full production speed, so using concrete doesn't harm anymore, it starts to help instead.

[NaturePower]

I already mentioned that you should always use concrete under windtraps. There are CERTAIN situations when u could go without (in no rules with a certain build order and rush in mind), but generally always use them with windtraps. Whenever I'm saying "better dont use concrete" I'm talking about other structures, not windtraps :D

 

And to clarify even more on this subject, it's a bad idea to use concrete because of time wasting, not economy. So once you're already in the game (+8 mins, full base - this means stable economy and x3 production facilities), and for example you're going to set an expansion, it's actually even advised to upgrade CY and use the 3x3 concrete under the buildings u place in the expansion. Why? You're no longer in need to hurry because u have stable economy and full production speed, so using concrete doesn't harm anymore, it starts to help instead.

 

Helps out for walls :)

P.S thats why i love starcraft: they doesnt need concrete, they have 5 workers ready to mine :D

[Adriano]

They only need 3x3.

Off-top.

Excuse me. How do you read this: 2x2, 3x3 in English? I mean pronunciation.

 

For example, in Russian.

2x2 - dva na dva

3x3 - tri na tri

[NaturePower]

Off-top.

Excuse me. How do you read this: 2x2, 3x3 in English? I mean pronunciation.

 

For example, in Russian.

2x2 - dva na dva

3x3 - tri na tri

Точнее: 2x2 two by two 3x3 three by three

[Gruntlord6]

Anyone interested in making a video of a skirmish match using concrete and a comparison without? I'm interested in having one made.