Yet another dune bug.

[exatreide]

Well not realy a bug. Insted of haveing a steich get sick and chani go make them feel beter. Insted have the people who got sick,get sick. Send them to another seitch. If you do this. Stilgar will keep saying lets go see Chani and you will never finish the game.

[exatreide]

why has this bene veiwed 28 times and there are no replys?

[Gobalopper]

What are they going to reply to? It's not like you left them a question to answer. :)

[exatreide]

they could say, thank you for your wisdom exatreides.......

[nemafakei]

They could also say 'I've made that mistake before, and got stuck' - as I have done.

[gryphon]

You have ?   ;D  ;D  ;D

Just kidding, I've also made that mistake.

[exatreide]

Wonder if you could mod that game and make some kind of rat-big hybred. oh wait theres the baron.

[nemafakei]

I doubt it's worth modding. It seems to have nothing to mod. (is that even a verb? It is now.)

[exatreide]

GASP! nema didnet look it up! *faints.*

[Nefud]

And have u tried to work with a fremen from north and a fremen from south?? They keep saying, that 'This fremen knows nothing about the desert, etc...' What is this I ask?? Have got a message like this??

[gryphon]

You'r right. You can't mix certain groups of Fremen.

[exatreide]

yea that seems to happen alot with me.

[Guest dune2fan]

i think dune is a difficult game to finish without a guide.  when i first played i made many mistakes which screwed up the game.  The trigger to leto's "punitive expedition" is putting gurney in a sietch with fremen there.  Well, i didnt do that.  I put gurney in an empty sietch and told fremen to come to him! the punitive expedition never happened.  I couldnt find any villages because of this, and so i couldnt buy weapons.  I ended up getting all of my troops captured by the harkonnens and had to restart :'(

Another time (i really dont know how i did it) the game said leto died in his punitive expedition, but he never left the palace.  Jessica is saying how horrible it is that leto died and he is in the other side of the room!

[Nefud]

Really?? :O

Wow, well that's something!! :)

[DCLXIV]

On 3/1/2002 at 8:26 PM, Guest dune2fan said:

i think dune is a difficult game to finish without a guide.  when i first played i made many mistakes which screwed up the game.  The trigger to leto's "punitive expedition" is putting gurney in a sietch with fremen there.  Well, i didnt do that.  I put gurney in an empty sietch and told fremen to come to him! the punitive expedition never happened.  I couldnt find any villages because of this, and so i couldnt buy weapons.  I ended up getting all of my troops captured by the harkonnens and had to restart :'(

Another time (i really dont know how i did it) the game said leto died in his punitive expedition, but he never left the palace.  Jessica is saying how horrible it is that leto died and he is in the other side of the room!

Oh my god! I'm trying to replay the game 20 years after this thread was started and kept getting stuck... Now I know why... I didn't bring Gurney to the freemens! 

This thread is older now in 2021 than the game was when the thread was created in 2001!

[Andrew]

Glad to see you've figured it out.

[DCLXIV]

8 hours ago, Andrew said:

Glad to see you've figured it out.

Yes! And all I had to do was to put freemens in a sietch and go there with Gurney and talk to him and then ask him to stay

[Lord Winner]

Actually, at least in the version of the game which creates DUNE21S*.SAV files, it's possible to proceed forward with the game even if you don't tell Gurney Halleck to stay into a sietch where army troops are training. That's how I played Dune for the largest part of the ~25 years I've been playing Dune on and off.

It triggers the aforementioned glitch of Leto's NPC remaining stuck into the palace's room, Jessica causing a vision when the player reaches the second sietch from Chani's region and telling the player that the Duke was killed in a punitive expedition which the player never saw starting, etc.

I do no longer play the game this way because I noticed, relatively recently, that it's an impediment to game progress, by delaying the point where the player can drink the Water of Life without dying. I use that to have Fremen troops proceed with further fortress attacks, while traveling to, and entering, sietches in Liet Kynes' area.

[yarpen26]

On 8/9/2021 at 9:13 PM, Lord Winner said:

Actually, at least in the version of the game which creates DUNE21S*.SAV files, it's possible to proceed forward with the game even if you don't tell Gurney Halleck to stay into a sietch where army troops are training. That's how I played Dune for the largest part of the ~25 years I've been playing Dune on and off.

It triggers the aforementioned glitch of Leto's NPC remaining stuck into the palace's room, Jessica causing a vision when the player reaches the second sietch from Chani's region and telling the player that the Duke was killed in a punitive expedition which the player never saw starting, etc.

I do no longer play the game this way because I noticed, relatively recently, that it's an impediment to game progress, by delaying the point where the player can drink the Water of Life without dying. I use that to have Fremen troops proceed with further fortress attacks, while traveling to, and entering, sietches in Liet Kynes' area.

Oh man... I already wasted a 72 days' playthrough because the game never triggered Stilgar's mentioning of Chani and the plot pretty much refused to move forward, but it sure didn't stop me from wiping out every single Harkonnen fortress without a care in the world, only for Thufir to say how I need to bring Chani over... and I had no way of getting to Oxtyn-Tabr without Stilgar telling me about it, even when I would fly right above its location. Off to the mirror and restart.

Now, this next playthrough seemed to go nice until I made it to the point when I asked Gurney to stay in one of the Western sietches (there was one Fremen inside though). I had already been told about Chani, but wanted to have Gurney start training the troops before collecting her so I wouldn't waste time. And when I asked him to stay... Chani (whom I had not yet met at that point!) appeared out of nowhere, did her night sky love confession thing and the damn kiss cutscene happened right there in the sietch, with Gurney and the Fremen right there in the background of Paul and Chani's shades, lmao.

I was afraid I had screwed up my game again so I loaded back to the palace and figured I just had to get Chani first because reasons. But I already had Gurney and Stilgar in my troop and didn't want to leave them on the palace because I needed Gurney out there and Stilgar with me. So I left Gurney in I think an empty sietch (bad idea!) and went with Stilgar to collect Chani. I did the deed with her, then left Stilgar at Oxyn-Tabr, went to get Gurney and upon landing I got the vision from Jessica about her getting horny with all the sexy stuff. Anywho, I took Gurney to the sietch that already had like two Fremen training combat, left him there, picked up Stilgar over at Oxyn-Tabr, then came back to the palace and sure enough, Jessica reported Leto dead and Leto of course was perfectly alive and well in the main room. Of course, I had never received the Harkonnen message and he never left on his punitive expedition (which I had witnessed in an earlier playthrough).

Like Christ, I already have both my savestates from after the Gurney business, no way for me to get back. Do you know if this glitch renders the game unbeatable? I don't think Leto being technically alive must be a deal breaker, but I so don't want to find out it actually is precisely that when I'm done with another two hours of this crap.

I mean, I like the game, but if all this is strictly on the source code and not on DosBox being hokey, then... it's one badly coded game. Even for 1992 standards.