love and Matrix Revolutions

[SpiceGuid]

basically agent Smith embodies the nihilist point of view: life is meaningless, thus it makes no difference if humans live or die.

then Neo is supposed to save the world by restoring some meaning, by re-enacting the virtues of love and sacrifice.

but how i see Neo and Trinity love is quite different.

seems their love is a fetish present.

certainly their could sacrifice for each-other.

but to sacrifice is not to give your life, it's to give your life-time.

to sacrify to preserve the excitement of the present, is not a real sacrifice, but rather a murder on the truth, that is acting like the Matrix itself.

the Smith agent does see that but Neo ignores it.

and finally, the Smith message is the only message.

[Apollyon]

The philosophical ideas in the Matrix trilogy were woolly at best. The films past the first were rather average.

[Cyborg]

The philosophical ideas in the Matrix trilogy were woolly at best. The films past the first were rather average.

Yep, the first one was good, but the second and third were just pointless action supplements...

[SpiceGuid]

of course the first was the best emotionnally, however it was politically an over-simplified marxist view of exploitation.

the second and third are less politically naive and stress the notion of interdependancy.

unfortunately it goes nowhere either.

[Apollyon]

The first was a good film. The others were poor imitations. If you want them for their sociological merit, don't bother -- read books instead.

[Caid Ivik]

I wouldn't look at it so aloof, Apollyon. Revolutions was the part with most originality. First Matrix was only a sum of cyberpunk and New Age, in fact nothing really new. Reloaded erased it, demythized the world of Matrix as movie Troy tries to demythize Illias. Revolutions brought the spiritual dimension back, altough authors try to explain it sometimes too pathetically. Smith is not only a nihilist, he is nihilism itself, self-destructive way of decadence, spreading like a cancer. This was not about Neo, which lsot sense for living because Trinity had died: simply Smith-nihilism was too disgusting for Neo to leave it spreading further. It wasn't as bad as many tell about it.

[erjin999]

Guys, part 1 rocked, parts 2 and 3 were crap. Just the ideas were original in part 1, two and three had a chance to explain more about the world and scenario, but were just tosh. Oh well. Maybe StarWars prequel part 3 will fare better.  :O

[GUNWOUNDS]

I wouldn't look at it so aloof, Apollyon. Revolutions was the part with most originality. First Matrix was only a sum of cyberpunk and New Age, in fact nothing really new. Reloaded erased it, demythized the world of Matrix as movie Troy tries to demythize Illias. Revolutions brought the spiritual dimension back, altough authors try to explain it sometimes too pathetically. Smith is not only a nihilist, he is nihilism itself, self-destructive way of decadence, spreading like a cancer. This was not about Neo, which lsot sense for living because Trinity had died: simply Smith-nihilism was too disgusting for Neo to leave it spreading further. It wasn't as bad as many tell about it.

i like this complex analysis the best.... you put alot of thought into it.