Canadian Election Results

[Andrew]

So the election is heating up. Instead of attacking each other, the main attacks is that the new government will associate itself with George Bush.

Guess no one likes Bush. :)

So who will win? What will be some upsets?

Liberal

Conservative

NDP

Bloc

Green Party

They seem to be offering the same stuff, although Harper offered $$$$$$$$ in military spending, so I don't like him.

NDP offered no interest on Student loans, so I love him.

Green party wouldn't know what to do if they won. (Although if they plan on mostly getting Canada to go green, ie. Windmills, solar panels, and other electrical producing mechanisms that is a good idea because we could laugh at other countries for high oil prices. ;D)

At least I had a green party member, http://www.greenparty.ca/index.php?module=fatcat&fatcat[user]=viewCategory&fatcat_id=73 Sharon Labchuk be a special guest in my politics class.

Although Sadly Wayne Easter is big in my riding (being a liberal and all).

complete list of parties to vote for.

Nice to know we got a cummunist party and Marxist-Leninist party of Canada

Post any interesting news/comments.

EDIT - Harper wants to take money from PEI and N.B. simply because we dont produce gas! He must not win!

[SurlyPIG]

Well then...

Liberals: Although it may not be deserving, the sponsorship scandal has pushed many people away from Paul Martin and the Liberals (I always wondered why Chretien retired early).  The question is whether or not the scandal was heavy enough to push the leftist Liberals to vote for the NDP and the Liberals on the right to vote for the Conservatives.

Conservatives: The merger has attracted people who are sick of the Liberals and want the most likely-to-win alternative.  It has also pushed moderate PCs in the other direction.

NDP: They will do better, but won't beat out either of the Libs or Tories unless Jack Layton shaves his moustache.  Seriously.

Bloc: Quebec is becoming gradually more and more sick of separatists.  The Bloc will lose seats this election.

[Vanguard3000]

I had originally wanted to vote Conservative.  I think we need a change - the Liberals have to go, at least for now.  But I'm finding myself less and less in favour of Harper's policies.

I remember doing some reasearch some time back on the Communist and/or Marxist-Leninist parties, and really liking one of them.  It's a damn shame they have no chance in hell, and we don't have representational voting.

Overall, I'm thinking I might vote NDP, even though I doubt they'll win where I'm voting (Ottawa South, most likely).  It's too bad the NDP always ends up being depicted as some sort of joke.  It kills their campaign before it even begins, and it seems to have been that way almost since their genesis.

[Mahdi]

Remember when the ndp won in ontario?  The job they did for those 4 years proved that they're a joke for a very good reason.

Liberals will win, but by a slim majority.

I wish Cretien was still running.  Now it's just picking between the lesser of evils.

[ordos45]

I wish Cretien was still running.

[Vanguard3000]

NDP controlled Ontario quite a while ago.

Besides, I quite enjoyed my extra week of March Break.  ;)

[Ninja_Sher]

I pretty much laughed myself out when I heard that there is a marijuana party he he,  ;D.

Anyway I think if Paul Martin ( kinda sounds like Paul Muddabib eh, and harper => harkonnen, no offense conseratives,  8)) and Jean Chretien would not throw stones at each other then it would be pretty much Liberal having a 100% to making a majority govt. Plus the fact Mcguinty giving ammos to anti-Liberals by giving a beheading budget. Plus Paul's tax cuts of billion dollars to corporate , plus ...

Anyway the last time the conservatives came made Canada into a third world country ( well almost ). So they would not make a good alternative. I would like to know though if Jack Layton could bite as much as he could barks.

[Mahdi]

NDP controlled Ontario quite a while ago.

Besides, I quite enjoyed my extra week of March Break.

[Ninja_Sher]

The missile defence project is getting a lot of attentions.

[Andrew]

Yah the last time Conservatives had a majority they went on a spending binge made big deficits, just like Harper wants to which will put us in debt a lot more.

[SurlyPIG]

I wish Cretien was still running.  Now it's just picking between the lesser of evils.

You're kidding right?  I can see how it's a choice of worst evil, but surely Chretien has to be the worst of the lot (except maybe for Harper).

[Mahdi]

You're kidding right?

[Mahdi]

If Joe Clark was still in the running, I'da probably voted for him (assumeing Chretien is still out).  Harper is tons better than Doris Day or Preston Manning, but he's still one of those crazy reform people, and there's a reason Joey is supporting the Liberals instead of his own party this election.

[Andrew]

Chretien liked to party with the citizens of Canada. Good Primeminister.

Harper = Evil

Don't vote conservative!

They just want to make the rich richer and poor poorer.

And they are not even going to debates.

The rest are good, like the green party or NDP.

[Wolf]

I'm a big fan of Chretien, you listen to one of his speeches, and you feel good. The man has an amazing speaking voice.

[Mahdi]

I'm a big fan of Chretien, you listen to one of his speeches, and you feel good. The man has an amazing speaking voice.

His face is half paralyzid, that's why.  Add's a little ummpphh to his words.

[Wolf]

Hahaha, is that why? Wow.

[Egeides]

As a Canadian, I have no onw to vote for... It's a "lesser of evils" election (even worst than usual). Being overseas, I may go to an embassy... to vote with a white paper. I'll have to check the alternative parties to see what exists since you hardly see anything but the main ones on TV.

Here's how I feel in these elections:  :-X :-X :-X

[Vanguard3000]

Yeah, sure, he only fixed the deficit, got us a huge surplus, decriminalized marjiuana, legalized same-sex marriages, defeated Bouchard in the Quebec referendum, refused to enter the Iraq war, clubbed a home invader with an inuit sculpture, refused to kiss Bush's ass, and has been a power in politics since he was at Trudeau's side.

I may not agree with everythign he has said and done, but he was a damn good PM and had the testicular fortitude to do things no one else in politics would touch with a ten foot pool, except that crazy church of weed guy who ran for conservative leadership a few years back.

Well put, Mahdi.  Very well put.  It's too bad Martin is so incredibly, horribly different.

Now I don't really want to vote NDP either, since my local MP said she's basically going to allow her religion to dictate the decisions she makes, almost regardless of what the people in her electoral district want.  :-

[Andrew]

Then vote for the green party. :)

[SurlyPIG]

Yeah, sure, he only fixed the deficit, got us a huge surplus, decriminalized marjiuana, legalized same-sex marriages, defeated Bouchard in the Quebec referendum, refused to enter the Iraq war, clubbed a home invader with an inuit sculpture, refused to kiss Bush's ass, and has been a power in politics since he was at Trudeau's side.

I may not agree with everythign he has said and done, but he was a damn good PM and had the testicular fortitude to do things no one else in politics would touch with a ten foot pool, except that crazy church of weed guy who ran for conservative leadership a few years back.

He also failed to fulfill his largest campaign promise of canning GST in his decade of leadership and retired only after he'd left his legacy and before the public release of the Auditor General's report on the sponsorship scandal.  And I thought it was Mrs. Chretien that clubbed the intruder...

And Martin was just as responsible if not more so for balancing Canada's budget than Chretien was.  Martin restructured a lot of fiscal matters, including overhauling the way Canada quantifies its national assets.  And when the country grew tired of Chretien and encouraged him to retire, advocating Martin for his replacement, he fires Martin even though Martin wasn't responsible for initiating any of it and says "I will retire...in a year and a half."  Then he retired only about 13 months after saying that and I always figured there was a reason other than him swallowing his pride and stepping down with dignity.  Then Shelia Fraser's report was released and it was obvious. :)  Plus over ten years he all but ignored everything west of Winnipeg.

I'm not saying the guy's all bad, I mean the only party I would have voted for over the Libs would be the PCs and they've been assimilated into Canada's redneck party.  I just don't see why Martin is any worse.

[Andrew]

Just checking out some of the green party's themes and one I saw was:

Require federal agencies to initiate transitions to open source operating systems and productivity software.

http://www.greenparty.ca/platform2004/en/themes.php?p=38

I don't think that will work...

Same with getting rid of nuclear technology/reators.

Big debate tomorrow night and Tuesday!!

[Andrew]

That was a good debate.

Paul martin looked like he was going to cry, and the farther into the debate the less English Bloc Quebecois Leader Gilles Duceppe sounded like (reminded me of Chretien).

Main topic was health care, and the odd don't talk to Bush about the Star Wars program as Bush is evil :P.

Jack Layton talked lots, and Martin even made fun of him by saying something like "did your lackeys tell you to talk so much?"

And Layton came back with a "that is not funny, we are talking about ...." or something I forget.

Conservatives plan to cut taxes and spend big = deficit, high interest rates etc.

So basicly the Conservatives will screw us all. :)

Comments?

[Mahdi]

Nah, I've already decided to vote for myself.  And if you don't vote fore me I'll have you executed once I come into power.

[Vanguard3000]

Well, I'm not in your riding, but I'm voting for you anyway.  Sadly, I think you'd be the best person for the job - or any job in politics.

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