leo Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 I've recently bought a new computer and it seems to crash/freeze alot, especially when I play games. I have a feeling that the problem is with the cooling. So my questions are; can cooling cause this kind of a problem? Does it effects only on the CPU or can it cause problems to the graphic card as well? And how do I fix it?P.S.I have 2 Fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gryphon Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 Overheating can effect your CPU, GPU, memory, MoBo - usually the northbridge I thought and in some extream cases your HD's.You might want to try gaming with the case open.What kind of CPU and grafics card do you have ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyarlathotep Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 The problem you described could very well be related to a heat issue. LikeĀ Gryphon suggested, try playing with your case open. Preferably, have an external fan blow cool air inside. That's the best way to determine any heat issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyborg Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 I reckon that if it's a freeze problem, it's either your cpu fan or your vpu fan.Vpu fans that come with graphics cards are often good enough. However, processor fans have a tendency to be poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo Posted May 2, 2004 Author Share Posted May 2, 2004 ok thx... ill try to play with the box opened. I have a radeon 9200 on-board and 3.0 ghz HT CPU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyborg Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 Hmm, it's an Intel.Do you know if the cpu is of the boxed variant with fan included? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo Posted May 2, 2004 Author Share Posted May 2, 2004 hmmm I don't really know what u mean but when i open the box I see 2 fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gryphon Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 does Intel still sell non-boxed versions ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scy Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 im sure leo have no idea what non-boxed is, cus he bought it complete!is it the PC2GO BM-2203? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo Posted May 2, 2004 Author Share Posted May 2, 2004 im sure leo have no idea what non-boxed is, cus he bought it complete!is it the PC2GO BM-2203?I didnt buy it at PC2GO but in maximus. here is the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scy Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 u bought an intel presscot processor! :Pthey are bugget and overhatted, intel said that it will fix them withing a month or so, check this review for more info about presscot processor :http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20040201/index.htmlbtw, if u bought this pc http://www.pc2go.co.il/eMall/product.asp?pc=43998&club= u will gain 300nis, and they both have the same parts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyborg Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 does Intel still sell non-boxed versions ?Every model comes in both a boxed and a bulk version.Do you have some kind of hardware monitoring software?To test if heat is the problem with your computer, do the following:Download the attached program I made for loading the CPU. The program will stress the CPU so that its temperature will rise until it's at the temperature where the cooling capabilities of the fan and the CPU heat emittance rule eachother out(maximum CPU temperature).The program will anticipate how hot the CPU is, and tell you when it thinks your cpu is at maximum temperature.When you get the message telling you to run a hardware monitor to check the cpu temperature, you must have downloaded a hardware monitor. Run it when prompted.Display the result on the forum.[attachment archived by Gobalopper] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gryphon Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 Every model comes in both a boxed and a bulk version.In The Netherlands you can't buy bulk versions of Intel CPU's anymore. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tutuco21 Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 i had the same problemi opened the cpu and put a giant fan in the sidenow i can play for ours and no freeze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo Posted May 3, 2004 Author Share Posted May 3, 2004 My motherboard is Asus P4R800-VM. The hardware monitor program doesn't support it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyborg Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 Hmm, not good.Well, I'd check my fan for dust!If it's not dusty, buy a new fan. It's not expensive at all.Bad for your Dutch :P... Here in Norway we can buy bulk ones.Buying boxed is stupid when thinking of overclocking, I've heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo Posted May 3, 2004 Author Share Posted May 3, 2004 Well i just came back from the store i bought it and i replaced my comp. Now the motherboard is P4S800D. It's a much more better one. So I'll try to play many games and if it will crash too so I'll run the test and post the results.Anyway, thx alot cyborg and the other guys. I have recieved a fast and good help. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo Posted May 3, 2004 Author Share Posted May 3, 2004 well I played some games today and there is no crash at all. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gryphon Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 Nice to see that you have got it to work. Enjoy your new combination. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo Posted May 3, 2004 Author Share Posted May 3, 2004 thnx :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyborg Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 My sister had the exact same problem today, actually :PTalking about coincidence... The computer turned itself off, and even the chassis was burning hot to the touch... I ordered her a new and better fan.Shame on Intel for their poor boxed fans! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Mitten Posted May 15, 2004 Share Posted May 15, 2004 The best method I have found to cool a PC Graphics card is to use a special fan that fits into a PCI type slot,ie it screws in as if it was a PCI card.Since then I have no problems gaming for long periods of time,I'm not sure where you can buy them though,a friend sent me one from Canada.These PCI type fans are great because they suck the hot air from the side,so If you position it next to your Graphics card it boosts the air flow alot.My FPS went up by 20 FPS so for an ATI 9800 Pro that is some achievement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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