Inoculator9 Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 Apollyon just gave me approval to add his two recent, and very innovative new patches to Dune Editing.Apollyon's Magical Mini-Patch can be downloaded hereApollyon's AI Patch can be downloaded hereThe first of the two increases Emperor's camera zoom ability, replaces some old player colors, increases the range of money in skirmish games, and the minimap FOW is now white.The second of the two has made the Emperor AI during campaigns and skirmish games a little more difficult to beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted January 4, 2004 Author Share Posted January 4, 2004 Forgot to mention that I gave them both a shot and liked them a great deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesnake Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 hi i just installed and tested the AI patch and i do agree the game become more chalenging becose i do think that the AI player in ebfd is too eazy to beat i dont know why i remeber in dune 2000 we used to have massive forces attaking from the AI player just on normal level but the problem is i noticed that this patch tend to weak the humnan player forces and units and that is bad in term of practicing the game and injoing the normal skilles of the fighting units and i started to worry that the change may apply on my on line gaming since the multy playe map is skirmish and in that case will make my forces less active than the other playes so i did uninstall that patch . plz tell me what u think thank u ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollyon Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 The patch does not alter the 'human player forces' in any way whatsoever. You are imagining things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesnake Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 lol ok am sorry for not explaining my self more clear i did not notice what i said during playe time i just was reading the text file attached to the patch and i noticed lines like make the harvester dealy and make the solders bend more time and fire less frequent so i though that what will happen to my forces if u want the exact text page and lines i will find them for u but anyway i didnt know what that realy mean so i was just asking and am sorry for my egnorence :-[ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 I know it's not my place to enforce the rules, but dear lord. I couldn't undertsand any of that. Could you please try to punctuate, capitalize, and arrange your sentences into complete, well organized thought patterns?And Appolyon: Tried it, good stuff. The AI in Emperor was always a bit disapponting, this made it a bit more of a challenge...a bit. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesnake Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 ok duke leto sorry but my english is not verry good here is what happend in steps: 1_ i downloaded the AI patch and installed 2_ i played and i like it 3_ i was looking into the patch files and i saw a text file so i tryed to read whats in it4_ in that text file i saw lines(sentences) like the harvester will make a delay of time befor arriving and the infentry will take more time to fire and stuff like that so i thought these are comands to the game program to make the human units less powerfull and i was not sure so i wanted to ask u guys and it turned out that i was rong so if u want me to tell you the name of that text page and the exact words i will just tell me .becose i dont have the patch right now and i have to download it once more . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted December 6, 2004 Author Share Posted December 6, 2004 Anasnake, unless I'm mistaken, you're wondering if the multiplayer AI during skirmish mode becomes more difficult with the patch? I believe the answer to that one is yes. If you want to alter that, just install another mod over the patch and you're good, or procure the original files from Apollyon here to replace the ones added by the patch.Also, you said you messed around with the "Rules.txt" file to some extent? You can in fact edit the abilities of units there, such as decreasing build time and cost. You can get a more detailed tutorial on this process at the Dune Editing website in the "Tutorials" section. I'll be happy to help you along with any questions you might have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesnake Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 hi mister inoculator9: well actuly what i mean is that when i read the rules text file like u said i saw words that tend to make unites more or less powerfull and i realy didnt know who will be strong and who will be weak so i was affread that my unites will cost more and be less effitive and in that case i will be weaker at mltplaye with both the IA or the others playes that will have an advantage over me but i was told on this letter that the patch dose not alter the human player units so thats it i wanted to learn. and when i wanted to remove the patch i just uninstall ebfd and erazed all saved files and reinstall. sorry becose i dont understand what u said at this line(porocure the original fi..... by the patch) and i have more question left plz dear sir : u said messing with the rules text file can make changes in the game well can that effect my own unites too? i mean do we have peapol at xwisc playing with those mod s coz i saw some peapol attaking me on line with 10 s of havy tanks befor i even make a single factory do u think they can be cheating and thx lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted December 9, 2004 Author Share Posted December 9, 2004 Cheating is possible, but as I understand it, we're yet to develop a patch or mod that works when playing a multiplayer game against some one that isn't currently using it.Hope we can be of help ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollyon Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Anasnake, the file you looked at is the rules.txt, and it will not result in any changes to the game's regular forces either on multiplayer or on skirmish. The file is simply an extracted original from Emperor. In short: you will experience no abnormalities during online play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erjin999 Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 rules.txt doesnt affect online play, apo ?Oh, I thought a lot of mods used that and thats why they couldnt be used online against/with people who didnt have the same mod. Giving OOS errors (which by the way is becomming a lot more common on XWIS, even in long games). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollyon Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Certain values can be changed without resulting in OOS on skirmish. These are values pertaining to the AI, which is not used by decent players online (except in odd circumstances). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erjin999 Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Extra-appol-late a bit. See apo, only you can use big words. Anyway, what I mean is can you explain what you mean by "decent". Does it result on some sort of cheating ? Is that how you deply so damn quick ?! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted December 10, 2004 Author Share Posted December 10, 2004 Ap's just good at what he does ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesnake Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 hi, links above are dead . and actuly i cant find the dune editing web sirt which i got the patches from,:-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobalopper Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 http://www.dune2k.com/download.php?cid=39 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesnake Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 man , ure scarry ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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