"Dreamer of Dune" biography

[NeoDevilbane]

This biography has been out for some time now... I hope ye who fancy yourselves "Dune fans" have gotten it and are in the process of reading it, because it's quite fascinating (all the Brian Herbert patting himself on the back bits aside), and a look at Frank's life we'd never otherwise get a chance to see.

- Neo

[Inoculator9]

Yeah, I've read a bit of it. It has been floating around for a while, so those interested should get a copy.

[Vanguard3000]

Sithspit! I was in Ottawa on the weekend, and I never thought to go to Chapters, as I usually do. I only went to used bookstores and another bookstore, which isn't anywhere near as good as Chapters. I guess I wouldn't have come across it anyway, since I didn't look in the biography section.

[NeoDevilbane]

It's a must-read.

- Neo

[Inoculator9]

Definitely. Some of it is really surprising, lol.

Also found out his boat was called "The Caladan".

[NeoDevilbane]

The machinations & stuff Frank went through during the writing process of each of the Dune novels was fascinating, and the ups and downs of the movie-making process that resulted in the Lynch movie are the highlights.

I have to admit, I have a lot more respect for Brian now.

- Neo

[Vanguard3000]

Inoc: if memory serves, Frank/the Herberts had three boats: The Caladan, the Arrakis, and the Ghanima.

Hmm... I'd really like to read about the Lynch movie. I know Frank had some influence in it (which might be where they coined the name Kaitain for the imperial homeworld).

[Inoculator9]

Yeah Van, I think you're right :)

[Mahdi]

Actually, you guys are wrong when you say Kaitan first appeared in the movie. Someone pointed out to me that it is in fact used in the appendix, and it is stated to be the imperial homeworld.

[NeoDevilbane]

C'mon, I know I'm not the ONLY guy on this board that's read Dreamer of Dune cover to cover...

Who cares where Kaitan was first mentioned? Would the answer to this question give us any better understanding of the enigmatic man who's creativity and ingenuity created the Dune saga decades ago?

This is sad, is what it is. Sad.

I've noticed everyone is quick to read the prequels and bash them and proclaim themselves Frank Herbert purists (my only gripe, if you recall, has been my wish that all Dune whoring be put aside and Dune 7 be done, done soon, and done right as promised)... then, after years and years a *very detailed* biography is written about him (chronicling *everything* he did Dune-related, and many excerpts from his personal notes) and no one has read it? No one?

Much love for you guys, but I'm disappointed. Practice what you preach, man - this book is Frank's *life*, nothing less.

- Neo[attachment archived by Gobalopper]

[Vanguard3000]

Personally, I'm not a "Frank Herbert purist", I just think the prequels sucked. And what does that have to do with a biography of Frank Herbert?

I simply haven't gotten around to reading it yet.

And Mahdi: Wow! how the heck did I not notice that before? I've skimmed the Terminology more times than I like to think about! ;)

[Inoculator9]

That "BS Detector" thingy made his post worth it ;)

[NeoDevilbane]

Hey, Vanguard, I'm sorry... but...

What do the prequels have to do with the biography? I don't know about the rest of you, but for those of you who have *bothered* to read Dreamer of Dune, if you've read it I feel one can't help but feel a great deal more respect for Brian Herbert and the story he is trying to tell.

- Neo

[nemafakei]

It seemed an honest question, why don't you answer honestly (and since it's a spoiler, put it in a hidden box)? There's no need to sound so bitter.

I've not even seen the biography on a bookshelf, so I'm afraid I cannot read it if I've not found a copy to buy...

[NeoDevilbane]

You seem to be right, Nema... I did buy out the last copy at my local Barnes & Noble and I had to really search for it.

- Neo

[Vanguard3000]

I'm a homosexual because I don't agree with you? I'm afraid I don't follow that logic.

1) No personal attacks will be tolerated. The only reson I'm not editing that comment out is because I honestly don't give a damn what you think of me. And your "sorry" is less than sincere.

2) I don't dislike the prequels because I dislike Brian Herbert or Kevin Anderson. I've never read anything else by KJA, and the only other thing I've read by Brian was Man of Two Worlds (with Frank), which I really enjoyed. I'm not so petty as to hate a book because of the authour.

[NeoDevilbane]

You're overreacting, Vanguard. :) You're the homie.

- Neo

[NeoDevilbane]

Where's a "Reading Club" thread for Dreamer of Dune, similar to the one for the "Butlerian Jihad" a while ago?

- Neo

[nemafakei]

Here, probably.

[Tio_Holtzmann]

Neo, vanguard is a moderator. that's his job. he has priniciples to consider.

And goodness knows how many sarcastic Flash alarms ive set off by saying those few words.

Anyway, does anyone know when Dreamer might come out in Ireland (or in Europe at least)? Never know when I'm gonna get books. I'm presuming it's only out in the US so far, or am I grossly underinformed?