ordos45 Posted January 5, 2003 Author Posted January 5, 2003 Yep, noticed that too...religion always comes back upon itself...it and ethics are bound intricately, one cannot be discussed without the other.
emprworm Posted January 5, 2003 Posted January 5, 2003 You make your own purpose??but that is the point, Acriku, that you have no real purpose. Only your own subjective purposes. THis means that when you were born, since you had not yet had a subjectively constructed purpose, you indeed had NONE. And what might your purpose be? To serve a gigantic, throbbing mass of homosapic purposeless particle bags?"I don't need religion to cling onto and walk through life blindly guided by the hope that religion offers. "lol. Last I checked, Acriku, you will die. SO, if there is any hope at all for you...you WILL - NEED - RELIGION.But since you are content to a hopeless existence with no real (objective) purpose, then I suppose you indeed do not need religion for such empty fatalism."and embrace the sunshine of life that your hope has shielded from you."To what end? Your whole life is just a string of one chemical reaction to the next. A happy moment is just a chemical reaction. Hope does not shield me from having biological chemical reactions to life's "sunshine"- which is basically other biological organisms reacting to stimulii and chemical reactions that interact with the particles that make up my body.My life is greater than a linear string of chemical reactions in my brain, but only with God can that statement be true.
hilamobster13 Posted January 5, 2003 Posted January 5, 2003 ya know whats funny? you hear all these people talking about how bad christians are for forcing religion on others, but here you all are, trying to tell a guy to turn to your religious side. this isnt worth fighting for over and over agiin. just LET IT GO. we will never live in peace here if you cant just profess tolerance. maybe im a visionary, maybe im not. all i know is im channeling the mentality through me, and that if ya dont love thy neighbor (not imposin religion) then inevitability states that you will live to hate him. my pack, my brothahs, we are at war between ourselves in this state. we must express tolerance, we must be one to live in this place. EMBRACE!!!peace is the message that im spreadin'.im a symbol, like prince.
Acriku Posted January 5, 2003 Posted January 5, 2003 No one has a real purpose. That would suggest a master plan, and that would require a master. We. All. Make. Our. Own. Purpose. We are born. We live. We die. That's life. There is no afterlife, that's it. People live and die, why does there have to be something more than that? Oh yes, there is that childish fear of nothing after death, well welcome to life buddy! Is reality that hard to grasp? Sure it's harsh, but hey we all go through it. We all die in the end. There's no Insert Coin to Continue, there's no Press Enter to Continue (3 lives remaining), that's it. I got over the fear of that a long time ago, and it's time you should get over it. I am a big blob of chemicals, atoms, etc, well guess what buddy, I appreciate the feeling of reality, that you are deprived of. That religion deprives you of. I guess you can't tell a dog how good a cup of hot cocoa is on a cold morning.
exatreide Posted January 5, 2003 Posted January 5, 2003 :Puh...yea thats not going to happen we have had relgion debates to long......there not going to stop.sorry gila..... ;)dang pesky christains...... :P :P :Pjk
emprworm Posted January 5, 2003 Posted January 5, 2003 "We. All. Make. Our. Own. Purpose. "But I dont logically see how that is possible.Regarding hope: none.Regarding purpose: self-created...? Its a delusion. Purpose, if it is real, must be objective. Self-inflicted purpose (in my opinion) is self-brainwashing and mental delusion because it has no real reflection on reality- only the tiny universe in my head. I am more concerned with the universe ouside my head.
ordos45 Posted January 5, 2003 Author Posted January 5, 2003 *laughs*Okay...this is just going to be thrown into the pits of Hell...err...the Dungeon at this rate. Sorry for my little comment about Hell there, we're covering Puritan Literature in Honors English and its very Hell-filled.Death is not the enemy. Death is a constant companion, always at our side. It springs at us when it feels our fear, our desperation. I do not fear death, not anymore.We need not debate religion on this thread, make a new one if you wish. P.S. Oh and yes, dang pesky Christians. I should know, I am one.
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