Our Imagination, Our Future?

[VigilVirus]

There are several prototypes of lasers that can be used in warfare - they just need a shitload of energy.

[exatreide]

yes a shitload of energy.

not to be confused with a crapload.

or whole bunch of energy. ;)

[Terror]

Or we ofcourse get a Dune maniac like Timenn who unleashes the sandworms and we are destined to live in sietches instead of our villa's

[Dude_Doc]

The Terminator future includes both atomic bombs and machines. First we create the machines, then we nuke our cities, and then there is war until either the machines or humans win. Maybe Aliens too, but well, how big is that possibillity within 100 years?

[Terror]

hmm terminator future within the next 100 years isn't very likely either... I don't think that machines will ever be so independant that they can take over world power.

[Acriku]

Well it might happen, just think how fast we are accelerating in the area of Artifical Intelligence. It might get to the complexity of being self-sufficient. But will we let ourselves be taken over by them?

[Sardauker-Kirov]

I hope there will be saiyans in outer space, which have strong and developed Ki abilities. It would be great, if the humans could learn how to master their Ki and uses it in weapons. * Rolls his eyes and laughs *

;D

[Acriku]

Too bad we aren't able to live long enough to fully master Tai Qi or KungFu, seeing as grandmasters over in south china live up to middle 100's and still are not done learning.

[Terror]

Well it might happen, just think how fast we are accelerating in the area of Artifical Intelligence. It might get to the complexity of being self-sufficient. But will we let ourselves be taken over by them?

Yes, but eventually they will always be dependant on us i think.. they can't think of themselves.. they can only think what they're programmed to think.

[Acriku]

But what if they are programmed to develop its own commands, in response to varients of activities? Or instead of putting hardcoded equations into the program, put a "recipe" on how to make the equations on the fly.

[Terror]

that is kinda hard.. making a robot that can learn.. i think in the end it is still a computer..

computers are incredibly dumb... the only thing they can do well is count... that's all.. robots are still made on those basics.

[Sardauker-Kirov]

I think it will be pretty strange, if there is such a thing as a 'living' computer. A computer that grows like a normal lifeform, even can absorb others into the structure of the creature.

So, everytime when the creature learns something. The computer will grow bigger and bigger, become more smart, so smart... it can whipe out the humans.

[Terror]

I think it will be pretty strange, if there is such a thing as a 'living' computer. A computer that grows like a normal lifeform, even can absorb others into the structure of the creature.

So, everytime when the creature learns something. The computer will grow bigger and bigger, become more smart, so smart... it can whipe out the humans.

hmm, if it grows we won't call it a robot anymore i guess

[Dude_Doc]

Thinking machines will be possible I think. I saw this "Earth Exodus" thing on Discovery Channel, and they said that humans will probably copy their minds to silicon brains. I think AI would be possible if we knew how a human mind works, exactly. But a computer can always expand. It's like you said, why not make a program that, on it's own, creates databanks of what it learns, and so, can (somehow) interact with it's surroundings. In that way, it will, on it's own, create calculations on what the surrounding is like. Yes, machines will never harm humans as long as they learn. Example Data from Star Trek. But when they can think on their own, when they can create ideas, philosophy, when they make strategies and plans, when they can "feel" their life, count time, have feelings, THEN they will also know how to learn ideas such as "why should the humans be supperior?". When they discover how humans really are, how we destroy ourselves with hate and technology, and how they can be so much better, then they will develop hate against us. And then we get the Terminator ideas and such. Besides, have you seen the movie "Virtuosity"? In there, they create polise programs, Virtual Reality simulations. They also create an AI, Sid 6.7, that is a combination of some dictators, evil men, and the worst fiction murderers and etc. He exists in a chip, and is activated when they insert him in the program. Also, there are Nanotech. So what do they do? A guy get's the sick idea of releasing this Sid 6.7, so he takes the chip and drops it in Nano-slime. The nanoslime is just molucular machines, tiny tiny tiny machines, that builds molecule for molecule until the whole structure is complete. But they need "orders" or a construction "sheet" to work. So this ship also, somehow, includes that order. The nanoslime reads the chip, and creates the Sid 6.7 in reality! I recomend you to see the movie if you're interested in nanotech-sci-fi :P. I think this technology could be used in a not so too distant future. Imagine! Create whatever you want! WHOever you want! R2-D2 to serve you? Just create the robot, create how he will look like, and "print"! In just a few minutes you will have a perfect R2-D2 that will serve you in your whole life!! Or why not "download" a "girl" and print? Huh? You don't need to feed her, buy her clothes, "be there". The only thing she will do is to satisfy you erotically. Night after night after night. And she will always be the same. But of course, if you want love and family, well, just my "teenage toughts"... But still, imagine the possibillity!!

[Sardauker-Kirov]

Terror, it could be still a computer, a organic computer that just keeps growing, just like a piece of tissue that doesn't depend on something. Or a plant...

Hmmmm, I wonder if Zergs could exist. The creep on the ground will gobble you down and hey! You're one with the Zerg now! :)

[Terror]

Terror, it could be still a computer, a organic computer that just keeps growing, just like a piece of tissue that doesn't depend on something. Or a plant...

Hmmmm, I wonder if Zergs could exist. The creep on the ground will gobble you down and hey! You're one with the Zerg now! :)

hmm perhaps you're right.. but i still have my doubts

[Anathema]

What's the definition of a robot? Isn't a robot just a machine that can only perform a limited set of operations?

[Dude_Doc]

Robot - a programmed machine that do what it is created to do.

Computer - a machine that do what the human controlling it does.

AI - a created mind that thinks and learns on its own.

[Dude_Doc]

So basically, the enemies you meet in games are not AI's, they're "robots".

[Sardauker-Kirov]

Enemies in game are called AI, since they take decisions of how to take out the player. Like in Shooting games.

Bots will try to find the best ambush point or defense spot.

[Terror]

Enemies in game are called AI, since they take decisions of how to take out the player. Like in Shooting games.

Bots will try to find the best ambush point or defense spot.

yes but they are limited to what they are programmed to do... they do not realy learn

[Sardauker-Kirov]

That is true, but Artificial intelligence can learn things now with our present technology.

[Acriku]

With our current and future technology, all we need to do is embed certain foundations of the program and let it on its own.

[Dude_Doc]

Robots do what they are programmed to do. The "AI" we see in games may have good tacticts, but the longer you get into the game, the same pattern you will see. In the end, you will know how to "dodge" the enemies and killing them without being hit yourself. As long as the "AI" don't learn your tactics, it will always be a robot.

[Sardauker-Kirov]

Special bots in some games, which you can download. Learn the tactics of the player.

Example:

The Player does a route of the following.

Get armor, health, rocket launcher.

Bot meets up with the player and the bot gets killed.

Now the bot begins to learn what the player's route is and begins to plan countermeasures.

Player reaches the armor and suddenly there is the bot with a rocket launcher in front of him.

The bot takes a closer look at your actions and tries to find an effective way to get you.