ErasOmnius Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Greece is building a wall to keep out illegal immigants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord J Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 I wonder how many illegal immigrants are being paid to build that wall.I also wonder how much the initiative to build the wall comes of an attempt to make jobs for the recently unemployed, much like Hoover Dam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athanasios Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Necessary measure and not enough. You should be in the center of Athens in New Year's Eve. I passed with my car and I was shocked: It was like Kabul. Other years the roads were blocked with families celebrating. Now full of Pakistani, Afghans and Bangladeshi. Like a big refugee camp... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 /care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandChigger Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 /careDitto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErasOmnius Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 Necessary measure and not enough. You should be in the center of Athens in New Year's Eve. I passed with my car and I was shocked: It was like Kabul. Other years the roads were blocked with families celebrating. Now full of Pakistani, Afghans and Bangladeshi. Like a big refugee camp...I think that it really is better to try to integrate illegal immigrants into nations that they physically live in. Walls may act as a deterrent, but in the long run, simply do not work that well. It's better if nations try to get the immigrants working and being productive, and possibly give the immigrants an easier path to citizenship if they have been in the host for some time. There was a law being debated called the Dream Act in the US, but it didn't pass in the last legislative session. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athanasios Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 That is impossible under the current circumstances. Unemployment is probably around 25% (do not pay attention to official numbers they are cooked) and companies and factories are closing down. Even if Greece had a flourishing economy it could not hold so many people. Simply we cannot add several millions of people in our a bit over 10M population.-Today the SOCIALIST DICTATORS put an end to justice thus violating the constitution-not that they care for it:An 1000%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -yes it is not a typo, increase to the money needed to sue someone and an 100% to 500% increase to various court fees. IMO a brilliant idea to combat crime. For sure crime will go down by more than 90% the following months in their scumm fake reports as now one will have the money needed to report to the police and file crimes in which the offender is unknown. Also in cases where the offender is known know it costs less to hire a gang and to solve your differences...I wonder what will be the reaction of terrorists, who recently bombed the court of Athens on these.Here is their 'letter' for the bombing (in Greek):http://athens.indymedia.org/local/webcast/uploads/analipsiinir8g.pdfFor those bored to read all of it it is of interest that they promise to attack (=kill) all the judges who will find guilty their comrades.The letter from their comrade who is imprisoned in Nafplio prison:http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=1244997 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErasOmnius Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 Here is the United Nations response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athanasios Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 If UN thinks so then let them feed them. USA and Germany forced Greece to go bankrupt to promote their imperialism. We cannot afford it anymore. What do they want? To allow more inside Greece and then we load them on a ship and dump them into the sea?When the dictators are overthrown from Greece, the policy that will be followed will be simple:Greece will open the borders for anyone who wishes to immigrate/seek asylum and immediately issue Greek passports to them.And allow me to add: Free tickets for their destination.-The journalist got some taste of the dictatorial regime ruling Greece under the blessings of CIA and the World Dictatorship. ;-)-And many more loose their lives when they try to pass through minefields. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 "Socialist dictators" ?Methinks someone isn't up on political definitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athanasios Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 And who told you they are Socialists? They just inherited the party leadership from their daddy's... And the party is far from Socialist. Do you live in a different planet? There is only Capitalism and nothing else. Only the puppets and their titles change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Er, you did.Today the SOCIALIST DICTATORS put an end to justice thus violating the constitution-not that they care for it: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athanasios Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 No I didn't. Who told you that what someone claims to be is what he really is? It is just a label.Am I right Edric O? BTW what is your opinion for European 'Socialist' Parties? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErasOmnius Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 It seems that Turkey is okay with the wall. I don't think anyone should come across borders illegally, but once there, why just drive them underground? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athanasios Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 I don't understand what you mean with the phrase 'drive underground'. Can you please explain for the non native English speaking people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErasOmnius Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share Posted January 16, 2011 I don't understand what you mean with the phrase 'drive underground'. Can you please explain for the non native English speaking people?In the southwestern United States, Latino people cross illegally into the US, to find jobs and the hope of a better life. Hiring such people brings such stiff fines and penalties from the IRS and federal government, that it is simply not done. So the people must go 'under the radar', living hand to mouth, seeking refuge. They turn up at shelters, poor and impoverished, with usually no place to live. They have the strong desire to work, but are not allowed to hold jobs, having been 'driven underground'.I think it would be better just to give them some type of immunity from prosecution, and allow them to work in the USA -- rather than have them turn to crime, or living their bare sustenance lifestyle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athanasios Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Almost similar here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athanasios Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Immigrants start hunger strike demanding among other the legalization of all immigrants in Greece:http://hungerstrike300.blogspot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athanasios Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Hunger strikers are 'criminals' according to the dictator's a*** licking court puppets...http://www.tovima.gr/default.asp?pid=2&ct=1&artId=386255&dt=24/02/2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athanasios Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Guardian: Searchlight poll finds huge support for far right 'if they gave up violence' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athanasios Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Welcome to Greece: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athanasios Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 And something good:Migrant hunger strike ends! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athanasios Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 A petition against the wall:http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/teixosntropis/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErasOmnius Posted March 15, 2011 Author Share Posted March 15, 2011 On a side note, today is National Day in Hungary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athanasios Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Bulgaria to build a fence along Turkish border - official Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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