spicy Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 hi.. my current sys is not able to run new games anymore !! i have a p4 3ghz 6200 geforce 256 mb and 1 gig ram so i decided its time to start moving .. this time i want a strong system that will last at least 5 years so i can use some help with some parts and with cost estimation .. here is my planes about the matter based on new egg prices : 1_ Intel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Just a comment on your choice of videocard. I would go for the nVidia GeForce 8800 GT instead. It is cheaper than the GTS and actually performs slightly better on average, according to some comparisons made. I recently bought that card myself, and I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicy Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 isnt the gts supposed to be better? somthing eals i dont understand the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037 is cheaper than http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115028 haw come ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megashrap Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Just a comment on your choice of videocard. I would go for the nVidia GeForce 8800 GT instead. It is cheaper than the GTS and actually performs slightly better on average, according to some comparisons made. I recently bought that card myself, and I love it. Yea, I just am not shelling out 2 or 300 bucks for a vid card when others can do as much or close to it at much much lower prices. Not to mention it is a power sucking hog also.But if you can afford it then go for it. Same applies to CPU's also.I really want to try this chip out http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103191 just spent alot for upgrades and couldn't afford it right now.But damn, says it overclocks stable at 3.8 gigs and totally unlocked...which is the way all chips should be IMO. ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicy Posted March 27, 2008 Author Share Posted March 27, 2008 you mean the new pc will make me pay a lot of electricity bills ? i mean haw bad is that? like a tv for ex ? or an air condition ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megashrap Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 you mean the new pc will make me pay a lot of electricity bills ? i mean haw bad is that? like a tv for ex ? or an air condition ?No, it would mean a very unstable system for starters. Crashes,lockups etc.or maybe not even boot up at all with an insufficient PSU.Or something like this after you boot up into windows http://www.evga.com/forums/upfiles/416955/0FFEDAB8366E4BBEB62877404A5ADDAD.jpg The electric bill I wouldn't worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicy Posted March 27, 2008 Author Share Posted March 27, 2008 ill get a strong psu they are cheap.. everyone is using those cards .. i know am paying a lot but my past system was crap and this time i need to be sure my money wont go to a waste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicy Posted March 27, 2008 Author Share Posted March 27, 2008 Just a comment on your choice of videocard. I would go for the nVidia GeForce 8800 GT instead. It is cheaper than the GTS and actually performs slightly better on average, according to some comparisons made. I recently bought that card myself, and I love it. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130319 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130317 its not cheaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 It also depends on the store as well, ofcourse... There they're both expensive. Though it seems the GTS has dropped in price somewhat, the GT should have done so too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicy Posted March 27, 2008 Author Share Posted March 27, 2008 haw about this : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130325R with the new (G92) gpu and for same price i herd they are much faster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megashrap Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Speaking of 9600.This will be my next card upgrade without a doubt hopefully within a months time or so.I'm just gonna by-pass the 8800 altogether.The prices for it are just rediculous.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130328http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153039 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D2k Sardaukar Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 No, it would mean a very unstable system for starters. Crashes,lockups etc.or maybe not even boot up at all with an insufficient PSU.Or something like this after you boot up into windows http://www.evga.com/forums/upfiles/416955/0FFEDAB8366E4BBEB62877404A5ADDAD.jpg The electric bill I wouldn't worry about.I just had that stupid "error" also on my screen. I think my power supply is slowly dying, it was a cheapy...I have a 6600GT, by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicy Posted March 28, 2008 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 Speaking of 9600.This will be my next card upgrade without a doubt hopefully within a months time or so.I'm just gonna by-pass the 8800 altogether.The prices for it are just rediculous. oh... the 9 series is out lol .... is it better than the 8 series ? haw come the 9600 is much cheaper ? and why you didnt get now scar instead of paying for a card that you will replace in few months .. i like this one a lot lol http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150283 is it better than this : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130325R haw come its much cheaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megashrap Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 oh... the 9 series is out lol .... is it better than the 8 series ? haw come the 9600 is much cheaper ? and why you didnt get now scar instead of paying for a card that you will replace in few months .. The one I just got will become a spare card. Also I could not afford to get That 9600 one I want yet,I have to save a little before I can because I want that PSU with it also. If you looked at the specs on the 35 dollar card i'm getting, it is not a bad little card at all considering that now I watch DVD's more than I play games.i'm running a 7600GT at the moment and it kicks ass with this monitor.So actually I will have 2 spare cards.The only reason that card i'm getting looks small is because it is a low profile card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicy Posted March 28, 2008 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 yes but why the 9600 gt is so much cheaper than the 8800 ? isnt supposed to be newer and better ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megashrap Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 This is a conclusion from Nvidia's reviews on the site on the 8600 and the 9600."ConclusionSimply put, the 9600 GT is one hell of a card. Less than a year after it launched the 8600 GTS, NVIDIA has created a card that surpasses its predecessor in every way. The 9600 GT's 512MB of RAM and impressive performance could make it the must-have option in the $169-$189 space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicy Posted March 28, 2008 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 i dont understand anything his talking about 8600 not the 8800 why is the new card so much cheaper almost 1/2 price of the 8800 gts ? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150277 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150261isnt supposed to be higher and newer and more expensive ? am confusedwhich one i should get?! in a simple word which one of the above is better? and if its the 9600 gt is better haw come its half price? it dosnt make sense!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megashrap Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Damn you make things complicated. :P Who cares why the 9600 is cheaper,the fact is that right now it is.It's also a newer family of graphic processors,Geforce 9 series.The bigger the price does not make it a better card nor does a bigger looking card make it better one.Other than that compare the 2 cards' specs and do the math on what and why you need a particular video card. Just for games? or doing other things, or both altogether.For example the card I just bought for 35 dollars the Gforce8400 GS/256 I know is gonna to kick ass for what I use my PC for now which is mainly DVD burning andwatching movies as well as games sometimes.I mean for that price it's a steal that i'm not gonna pass up right now.Just like The 2 x 1gig kit of DDR2 800 gaming memory I bought for only 40 dollars is a steal for that price.With lifetime warranty,heat spreaders and great quality.For me personally I buy my video cards after I have built the rest of my system meaning I pick out my card last to fit the rest of my system specs and not the other way around. But that's just me, I tend to pick out my beef first before getting my vegetables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicy Posted March 28, 2008 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 my final rigs and budget : 1 _ Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 = 200$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115046 2_ ASUS P5K-E mb = 140 $ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131225 3 _ CORSAIR XMS2 4GB(2 x 2GB) ram = 124 $ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145176 4_ Western Digital Raptor X WD1500AHFD 150GB Hard Drive = 175 $http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136011 5_ OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI ATX12V 700W Power Supply = 125 $ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341002 am going maximum on this one coz i had lots of psu problems on my current sys better be safe than sorry .. 6_ and the hardest choice was the vga it will be the GeForce 8800GT xfx at 230 $ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150253 - so i have a monitor and cd player and a floppy and ill get a cheap nice looking case for a 50 $ ... total cost 1044 $ is it a good computer ? did i forgot anything ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D2k Sardaukar Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Why is the harddisk so expensive and only 150GB? Here in Holland you have for 95 euro 750GB. Games are getting bigger so I wouldn't go for only 150GB.link: http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/159169/samsung-spinpoint-f1-hd753lj-750gb.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megashrap Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 I thought you said you couldn't buy from newegg. Anyway you can get that memory for way less.Actually you could buy 4 gigs for less than your gonna pay for what you picked out.Recommend Use----High Performance or Gaming Memoryhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211066 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicy Posted March 28, 2008 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 i cant buy from the net not only new egg because i dont have a credit card and no one will send to egypt and even if they do they will charge taxes .. but those brands are famous and i can find them in the market not like the rare deals you dig on new egg .. i mean every hard ware shop will know what is a raptor hdd . it dont have to be the same model but i will get somethings near to it .. if i find them ... and i dont have much faith in that .. Thumper i asked scar the same thing and he said that raptors are much faster if you are not looking for space and honestly i dont plan to install 20 games with 10 gig per game so i wont need all that space and i prefer some speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicy Posted March 28, 2008 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 scar i want a 2 gig stick and CORSAIR is better than the one you posted and the money difference is not big Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D2k Sardaukar Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 I don't think there is much difference in quality in ram brands. However I did read that Kingston is good at over clocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicy Posted March 28, 2008 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 am not confusing my self with that .. ill get any 4 gig ddr2 800 ram i find in egypt market i have a much harder task collecting the other chips .. 2 years ago i wanted a 6600 gt card i looked for 3 months and i didnt find and i ended getting a retarded 6200 for a 100 $ lol i have my doubts that i will be able to integrate this computer in this market but i had fun to virtually build it .. lol and it didnt cost me anything just a post here and on pc mechanic forum http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=195290 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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