Fallujah

[SurlyPIG]

Insurgents....is that like freedom fighters ?

Freedom?  No, most certainly not.  They are thugs and warlords trying to be the ones to establish an Islamic state (and by Islamic state I mean a single-party dictatorship where Islam is Imposed on the side to help control the people).  Everyone wants to be that party.  Sadly, though, that is probably more wanted by Iraq that democracy is.  Love him or hate him, compared to the rest of the middle-east, Saddam was fairly secular that is as much of a reason for him being hated as his brutality.

[erjin999]

Right now it seems the Iraqi's are fighting the Americans a lot more then they are fighting the "warlords"

[SurlyPIG]

The Iraqis are the warlords.  Or, at least, they fight under the direction and propaganda of these warlords.  There are no freedom fighters in Iraq.  Only sheep lead by militant, power-hungry shepherds.

[Andrew]

After seeing Fahrenheit 9/11, I would say they are freedom fighters. Bush wanted to invade Iraq before 9/11.

From what I hear about afghanistan, warlords are running rampant again. No one cares about Afghanistan anymore. They got no oil.

[Digital Guerrilla]

[ordos45]

From what I hear about afghanistan, warlords are running rampant again. No one cares about Afghanistan anymore. They got no oil.

US and NATO troops are still deployed there however.  If we didn't care at all, we'd be out of there. 

But, on the Iraq front, want to know a little secret that rings true around my state at least?  The Average U.S. Citizen falls into one of two categories on the issue of Iraq:

1) They attacked us on 9/11 and deserve to all die.  Kill'em all and let God sort them out.

2) Why are we over there?  I don't give a *profanity* about Iraq!

[Anathema]

That's comforting Ordos...

The Dutch troops are going to leave the province Al Muthanna in march, wich is a pity. If Americans will replace them I don't think it will remain as peaceful and quite there, considering their reputation among the Iraqis. We trained some Iraqis as security officers, hopefully they can take it over from then (as our government claims)

[Digital Guerrilla]

There seem to be weird news accounts of bodies being dumped into the Euphrates, civilians being killed even though they clearly used white flags to show they were not fighters. Once Fallujah is able to be accessed by other agencies not just the US military forces there I wonder what can be made of what really went on in that city.