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Ice_Cube · July 10, 2004

Yes, webpage makers add so much junk that it's unbelieveable!

You did metion the word junk, I assumed that by this you meant the line:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">

That dreamweaver adds, which is hardly the end of the world.....

Most people say real designers use notepad and thats it, no other tools required...... but I disagree, I use Dreamweaver when designing. You get everything notepad offers, plus a preview of what the page will look like (although this preview may not be accurate when using dynamic pages)

If YOU read my earlier post, you would of seen that I also pointed out the fact that the preview may not always be helpful.

To be fair, you didn't even mention the preview pane....... and it is practically impossible to write a page with out using HTML -> print "<br>"; counts as using HTML in my book.

And you can set up a local server that runs Active Server Pages or PHP, etc.... so you can preview them

Notepad may take 5 seconds less to load that dreamweaver, but thats all the advantage... you get to preview any non-PHP pages you might have, get coloured coding (that will highlight any mistakes), in-program refrencing, a simple FTP program.........

Good luck with the website Slappy, even if the website isn't superb, your graphics have always been amazing.

Cyborg · July 10, 2004

I didn't like the ftp-program. I use CuteFTP instead.

Sorry about not reading your post; it was too long :P

You did metion the word junk, I assumed that by this you meant the line:
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">

Nah, that line is good to have.

Although I must say I never write it myself :P

Timenn · July 10, 2004

Dreamweaver is fine, if you just want to make a webpage, and don't want to have a too advanced site. The code Dreamweaver generates may look unorganized, and that it is. But I really doubt there would be real syntax errors in them. So just use Dreamweaver if you want to do nothing further...

But if you like to build your site in text, like many people do. Then... screw Notepad. Notepad is awful, the font it uses for plain txt is awful. The search sucks. And you have to jump in at every line if you want to have an organized syntax, and there is no syntax highlighting and whatsoever. There is no need to use old stuff when new stuff works better. There arep rograms which ease the writing of good correct HTML without getting annoying. Try jEdit: http://www.jedit.org/ Then if you download a XML plugin, you can setup that it automatically closes tags when typing "</" so that you can't nest tags wrong and there are more of those things.

That DocType is no junk at all. It informs the browser what kind of syntax the "document" uses.

Cyborg · July 10, 2004

But I really doubt there would be real syntax errors in them.

No syntax errors. Just very unorganized code.

slaphapy · July 10, 2004

@gryphon: thx, the renameing it worked :)

@ice : thx!

@timenn: cant get it, don have java, and cant dl java too big.

New prob: now i cant figure out how (if i can) to get another page... i have the 1 page (homepage) but i want another second page that i can link to from the home page. can i do this? or with the free webspace do you think i onoly get the one webpage for free and no more?

slaphapy · July 11, 2004

New update:

i've figured out how to get another webpage to link to.

BUT, now i'm having a problem using a certain script i found on the internet.

this script is for keeping people from right clicking on your page to save photos and watnot..... the weird thing is it worked on the main page but its not working on the full size picture pages...

the script is:

<script>

<!-- //Hide script from older browsers

var msg = "Right-clicking has been disabled";

if (navigator.userAgent.indexOf("Netscape") != -1) {

Timenn · July 11, 2004

The script is useless. It doesn't really work. Ok, it might do the trick with IE (which is very easy to trick) but right-clicking can be done with Mozilla, and I'm sure it can be done with other browsers. Besides that, you still have the menu in the top. And you can still view the page source, and thus retrieving all links, if it already isn't enabled that you can see them when holding your mouse over a link.

Besides that all, why do you want to disable it anyway?

And yea, it kind of sucks that there isn't a small Java interpreter included in the jEdit installer, which allows you to install it without needing something else. I guess that is the disadvantage of it...

No syntax errors. Just very unorganized code.

If you don't care about unorganised code, because you never look in it (when you just want to put a page on the web, and nothing more) then it will be fine. As long as there are no syntax errors. The internet is too damn full of pages with syntax errors, and browsers who are too generous with fixing those errors, so no one is motivated to remove those errors.

Cyborg · July 11, 2004

It is well suited for people who never read code, yes.

That's what it's created for, sort of.

slaphapy · July 11, 2004

on internet explorer..... i cant view the source code for the pictures.... and yes i know you can get past it by other ways, you can even get past it in internet explorer easily... i was just hoping that it would keep at least some of the people from taking my pics.

o well maybe ill just not worry 'bout it.... if for w/e reason i find someone using my pic ill just contact them 'bout it.

gryphon · July 12, 2004

just to let you know, with Avant [ using the IE engine ] right-click is also working as it should.

slaphapy · July 12, 2004

just to let you know, with Avant [ using the IE engine ] right-click is also working as it should.

i took it all off... i just decided not to do it.

now im rebuilding my site trying to figure out the navigation bar... ap0 is trying to help me out with it but im having some problems, i might even scratch that idea and just get navigation buttons (which i still dont know how to make, but i gues ill figure it out.

Ice_Cube · July 16, 2004

Not that it will stop people from stealing your pictures, but Adobe Photoshop gives the option to add a watermark to your graphics, which if I remember rightly adds your name to the work, so at least it can remain yours on someone elses hard drive ;D

EDIT: Although theres nothing to stop them taking a screen-shot :-

slaphapy · July 18, 2004

i just put a big ol' pic of mine over a part of the picture so as it would be impossible to patch that area, seing as nobody would know what it looked like there (only way would be to cut off that part...

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