my views of humanity

[Big D]

First and foremost. you can call me and idiot or naive or stupid or anything and you may be right but at least hear (read ::)) me out.

Second; It is not my intention to offend anyone so if you decide to read this then be warned.

okay here goes:

In today's human society around the world I see naught but hunger disease and war (slightly exagerated).

the war between israel and the palestines (correct me if wrong :-[) is appaling

these terrorists blow themselfs up for what????. It won't so them any good, hell those terrorists get younger too and their mothers even encourage them to become a martyrs (saw it on tv)

As for hunger. I obviously mean the third world nations.

How can we possibly sit on our asses, eating a good meal everyday and just ignore the people in the poor countries. We are so selfish.

The same is true with disseases such as aids. I mean there are many comercials on tv about aids and that we should give money to help create a serum.

we just shrug when we see such thing on tv.

And about god(s)(esses). I hear many people talking about their religion/faith/belief and they say that their religion is the real one and that all others should be killed because of it. so hear me: WHAT KIND OF GOD WOULD WANT IT'S PEOPLE TO KILL OTHER PEOPLE BEACUSE OF RELIGIOUS ISSUES (sorry about the caps).

I mean like it sound really dumb.

as for worldwide war: WE SHOULD NOT FIGHT FOR OUR PERSONAL GLORY; BUT FOR THE GLORY OF HUMANITY! ! ! (sorry again ::)).

Instead of wasting gazlion dollars on war; we should build more rockets; colonise space, discover aliens(as if ::) and depending on their friendlyness either befriend them or obliterate them for daring to threathen out race. THERE!

sorry about the typos.

[GUNWOUNDS]

1.) yes the matyrs are mislead and cause great pain.

2.) As far as hunger , the USA is the BIGGEST donator of food... we even feed NORTH KOREA

[Big D]

I'm sorry if I offended you. I guess I was exagerating. :-X

as for the usa part about sitting on their ass; I did not necsiceraly(sp :-[)

targeted my atention to usa but worldwide.

I guess your right about the feeding part too.

as for childish stuff. I'm gonna pretend I did not read that ::)

[GUNWOUNDS]

I'm sorry if I offended you. I guess I was exagerating. :-X

as for the usa part about sitting on their ass; I did not necsiceraly(sp :-[)

targeted my atention to usa but worldwide.

I guess your right about the feeding part too.

as for childish stuff. I'm gonna pretend I did not read that ::)

[Big D]

I did warn that the post may contain potentially offending contents.

I reckon you took that into consideration.

as for me watching only tv. I watch the news so it's not just comercials that drove me to make this topic.

at any rate; I hope you can accept my sincere apologize for having offended you.

I might someday post something like this again in a "more thought out way" ::) ::)

maybe then it will make sense ;D ::)

[GUNWOUNDS]

I did warn that the post may contain potentially offending contents.

I reckon you took that into consideration.

as for me watching only tv. I watch the news so it's not just comercials that drove me to make this topic.

at any rate; I hope you can accept my sincere apologize for having offended you.

I might someday post something like this again in a "more thought out way" ::) ::)

maybe then it will make sense ;D ::)

ok fair enough.... *handshake*

;)

[Dante]

1) People labelled 'terrorists' fight the way they do because they see no other option. Presumably the way to stop it is not to fight them because that will just reduce their options even more and make more terrorists and more martyrs. The trick is to provide other options, such as diplomacy.

2) Yes, we eat and they don't. It's the way of the world. In order for some to have more, others must have less. There's a whole topic on that.

3) War is inevitable. People will never agree. Personally I think it's too expensive (financially) to bother with but still the people continue...

4) The funny thing about disease is that no matter how many you treat or find cures for, there will always be more. Bacteria and Viruses (the most common pathogenic organisms) are perfectly capable of evolving and they do so. Hopefully we'll never get rid of them.

(And incidentally, I disagree with the 'mostly from the USA.' Louis Pasteur? French. Edward Jenner? English. Robert Koch? German. Alexander Fleming? Scottish...)

5) Religion?

"At least two thirds of our miseries spring from human stupidity, human malice and those great motivators and justifiers of malice and stupidity, idealism, dogmatism and proselytizing zeal on behalf of religious or political idols."

Aldous Huxley.

Religion is arrogent and delusional.

[Big D]

I agree with what you say. 8)

except that (some) terrorist namely those who "selfdestruct" are beyond redemption.

Or so it seems to me.

[Dante]

Try to look at it from everyone's point of view.

[Caid Ivik]

1. (suicide bombers) Simply, life isn't the highest value for them. Maybe once you will find out there are more important things than the life itself too. It's their view on the thing, they feel a need to fight for an ideal. And as they are uncapable of it, they can perform only pathetical suicide attacks. It's philosophy, just a guerilla war.

2. (hunger) If it makes you unease, then do something for it. Start a charity or support some already existing, if you have enough money invest in some starving country. Tough then you'll be a target of consumerist antiglobalists, which just want the wealth at home...

3. I couldn't find the sentence which created this point

4. (diseases) Ha, just a propaganda of some pharmaceutical firm. If you really want to help finding a cure, study pharmaceutics and put your brain. Money won't buy thoughts. Until then, you can live in monogamy and you'll be sure AIDS won't hit you.

5. (God) There can be only one kind of God, as the definition of the word itself can't accept being of more gods. It's an ethymological nonsense. Polytheist gods were either glorified lords or only various appereances of one God or a worldsoul. But that's just a thought. Primarily, we don't know what God wants, in fact he can't have a desire as He is omnipotent, I mean He is a source of everything. Those aren't religions killing. Those are humans killing, mixing religion with war traditions. Christianity teaches tolerance and love for the others, but what could we do with Germans and their adored strength? It's tradition, not a religion.

6. (rockets) Earth is enough for now. When it will be needed, it will be built. Also mankind isn't some kind of unite things, we are just few beings with very similar DNA, also sharing capability to think. But still, we are all nothing else than just individuals.

[Big D]

very true. still for the last point your right but startrek is a cool thought 8) ;D.

Now I'm joking. :D

[Caid Ivik]

that's sure, just someone has to invent a warp drive first  ;D

[Big D]

Zefram where are you (screams into the distance) :D

[GUNWOUNDS]

3. I couldn't find the sentence which created this point

when he said "Instead of wasting gazlion dollars on war;"

[otheymzefedaykin]

4.) Diseases?

[GUNWOUNDS]

MMMM, it had bring ADIS ! ??? I think ! An american treatment against polio in Belgian Congo ! Because this treatment was made with monkeys organs !

It's what I think, we don't always know how ADIS was born ! :-

i heard that AIDS originated from the practice of people eating monkey organs (brains) ... it could be true

... cause syphilis came from sheep !!

[Dante]

Well he's right about the syphillis... HIV is a more difficult matter. Needs more study.

[TMA_1]

The sad thing is deplomacy wont work for terrorists. See we are thinking on our own playing field, and that is dangerous. The terrorists dont think on the same level that we do, and because of this we think that they somehow will "answer to reason". They are reasonable though! lol that is the horrible truth. If we looked at their way of seeing things, we would find it totally and absolutely reasonable, and if we saw like them we might even think their crusade has merit. We cant though because we westerners (most of you out there are) have grown up with a different frame of mind. And because of this we either try to analyse terrorism which doesnt work, or we try to speak down to terrorists, which is even worse.lol

Many different terrorists in the middle east have done some horrible things lately, but they still deserve our respect nonetheless. We should respect them because chances are likely that you will never understand why terrorists do what they do; we should respect them because they do fight for a reason.

Those of you who are devout in your religion should see why all these bombings have happened. They fear God more than man, and more than death. They think they are doing right, and if you were raised in that kind of way you would be hard pressed not to do the same. THey cannot be bought and they cannot be won over, they dont listen to you. They believe they are listening to God.

[otheymzefedaykin]

Yes ! But the persons who have been treated with this treatment, died ! It was the ADIS !

But that wou said could be true too !

[Anathema]

And about god(s)(esses). I hear many people talking about their religion/faith/belief and they say that their religion is the real one and that all others should be killed because of it. so hear me: WHAT KIND OF GOD WOULD WANT IT'S PEOPLE TO KILL OTHER PEOPLE BEACUSE OF RELIGIOUS ISSUES

The sad thing is that the vast majority of muslims in poor countries (and christians in some parts in Africa) can't even read, much less their holy scriptures. They "know" (I think there should be a word for knowing something that is actually false) only what they're told by their leaders.

[TMA_1]

hmm actually most muslims are literate, even poor muslims. It is so so so important that they are able to read the Koran, and read it in it's original language.

Even in the poorest muslim countries in africa, when christians send out bibles they have to send it in the arabic language.lol so that should show you that most muslims are definitely literate.

ANd christians do the same with missionary work. They dont try to change their language, in fact they stress for them to keep their native language. I totally agree with this, so for both christianity and islam studying the holy books is extremely important.

[GUNWOUNDS]

hmm actually most muslims are literate, even poor muslims. It is so so so important that they are able to read the Koran, and read it in it's original language.

Even in the poorest muslim countries in africa, when christians send out bibles they have to send it in the arabic language.lol so that should show you that most muslims are definitely literate.

ANd christians do the same with missionary work. They dont try to change their language, in fact they stress for them to keep their native language. I totally agree with this, so for both christianity and islam studying the holy books is extremely important.

most muslims are literate? .... who teaches them TMA ?

the poorest kids who can barely get enuf to eat... you think they are spending any time reading the qu'ran?

usually the extremely poor dont have the luxury of reading

[TMA_1]

It depends, there are many schools where the koran is specifically taught. In fact many orphans are taken into these schools, also children of single mothers and whatnot. It is usually the poor who are more vengeful than the rich, that is obviously not always the case, but literacy is large in many muslim countries. The poor have chances of making their family respected int he communities if children of poor families excel in the study and memorization of the koran.

[nemafakei]

"most muslims are literate? .... who teaches them TMA ?"

As I recall, it's the job of the imam.

[Caid Ivik]

What they need is a centralized Church or at least something like Talmud...