Sexuality

Acriku · August 11, 2003

Since there's half of a trend being started, I'd like this thread to address the many different forms of sexuality existing today. Now, it is my opinion that we are all pansexuals, and what sexuality we think we are is just what we allow ourselves to accept. What ever we deny ourselves of, is just what we can't accept ourselves being. Societal constraints, perhaps. Anybody here think different?

nemafakei · August 11, 2003

"is just what we allow ourselves to accept"

Personally, I allow myself to be asexual only. I am aware that my 'nature', as it were, is heterosexual.

To suggest that all of humanity conforms to any particualr pattern of preference is not sensible.

Acriku · August 11, 2003

What if it was our nature? The species of monkey that do the dirty with anything the walks isn't 'aware' as we are, but if it were - would it be constrained by societal constraints? We have our nature, and then we have the nature societal conditions have led us to either deny or accept.

nemafakei · August 11, 2003

"isn't 'aware' as we are"

Aware in what respect?

Acriku · August 11, 2003

Consciously, as in of their own existence, and other's, consequently also of the effects of their own existence and other's.

quoudam72 · August 12, 2003

Consciously, as in of their own existence, and other's, consequently also of the effects of their own existence and other's.

Slighty off topic but interesting.....

I think they (animals) are aware (certain degrees and certain animals) of there own existence but that have not a way to explain that to humankind say in a written language. Animals I suppose are aware but have no means to leave a record of their experiences of that state of being that they live.

How are we to define sexuality. People use different forms of sexual gratifiction for individual pleasure. What's the purpose for these forms of sexual gratification, besides the obvious.

TMA_1 · August 12, 2003

I think that we all naturally tend to center on bisexuality. Our nature seems to point towards it in my opinion. It is a perversion of the truth, but we are sinners, and that is a perversion of true nature. all my opinion here though. I have just noticed that there is an attraction on both sides if sexuality is not kept in tact. of course I am not nihilistic as acriku seems to be.

Caid Ivik · August 12, 2003

There is nothing bad on sexuality, just you have to maintain a good way. Act of regeneration does not have to be a prime point. Rather prefer being chivalrous to the opposite gender.

TMA_1 · August 12, 2003

its a bit more complicated than that caid. ;) hehe jk man.

Dante · August 16, 2003

Article:

At a time when religious and conservative right-wing groups are attempting to dismiss homosexuality as "unnatural," a leading zoologist has said gay people could be seen as the "pinnacle of evolution."
Speaking at the Edinburgh Book Festival, Clive Bromhall said that humankind's evolution has resulted in our present state of "infantilism," in which we break the primate mold by being playful, creative and childlike right into adulthood.
"From men's obsession with swollen breasts to our constant search for a pseudoparental God, everything about the human species is infantile," Bromhall said in a lecture.
"Like baby chimps, we have soft, downy bodies, flat faces and large, rounded heads. Like them, we too want to be kissed, cuddled and stroked; we remain playful, compliant and comparatively mild-mannered for the whole of our lives," he added.
Bromhall claims that infantilism is rejected by straight people as they age -- and that by remaining in same-sex relationships, gay men and women are actually displaying superiority over their peers.
"We've known for years that homosexuality is linked to a playful, creative character," he said.
"Homosexuals excel as artists, thespians and other playful, mimetic professions. Being playful is at the heart of being human. It's something that should be celebrated. You could say that homosexuals are at the pinnacle of human evolution."
Bromhall was speaking to promote his new book "The Eternal Child" at the festival.

"The pinnacle of evolution." Sounds rather catchy don't you think?

Appologies for bumping this topic up, but it seemed the only one where the subject actually fit in.

Acriku · August 16, 2003

I'm a bit leery on the comment that 'Homosexuals excel as artists, thespians and other playful, mimetic professions.'

Dante · August 16, 2003

Me too. But it's an interesting opinion nonetheless.

Caid Ivik · August 16, 2003

They excel as artists, of course. As well as many narcomans, schizophrenics, paranoids or hyperactivists. One gear less in brain and it has quickly more place!

Dante · August 17, 2003

Could you rephrase that please? It sounds like fluent nonsense.

Caid Ivik · August 18, 2003

Mentally uncertain people have usually unseen abilities. It's called autism, I think.

Dante · August 18, 2003

Mentally uncertain? (Eeeeee! Deja vu!)

So you're comparing us to the mentally disabled?

Caid Ivik · August 18, 2003

No, I INCLUDE you to mentally unstable persons.

Dante · August 18, 2003

Why?

Caid Ivik · August 18, 2003

Why? It is an error, one Y replaced by X, so you have more estrogen and receptors are confused. How would you define it?

Dante · August 18, 2003

As far as I know when the XY becomes XX the person is female... Though I'm not sure of this, I think that XYX and XXX are both male. But in no case does it change sexuality.

I think the question is still open to debate.

Caid Ivik · August 18, 2003

I am no expert in biology, but it can have something with it. Such person has many female genes inside, so they create much female hormone and so the person is of uncertain gender. Twist of nature, comparable to i.e.siamese twins...

...or to Down's syndrome.

Navaros · August 18, 2003

. Twist of nature, comparable to i.e.siamese twins...
...or to Down's syndrome.

...or to the most similar of all mental disorders to "homosexuality": pedophilia

it has been scientifically proven that "homosexuality" is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain combined with an over-exaggeration of the need to be loved

just because it is a genetic defect, that does not *exscuse* it. pedophiles and serial killers are born with mental defects too; and that does not justify their deviant behaviour. neither does it in the case of "homosexuality"

Dante · August 18, 2003

Please provide a link to this 'scientific proof.'

August 19, 2003

. Twist of nature, comparable to i.e.siamese twins...
...or to Down's syndrome.
...or to the most similar of all mental disorders to "homosexuality": pedophilia
it has been scientifically proven that "homosexuality" is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain combined with an over-exaggeration of the need to be loved
just because it is a genetic defect, that does not *exscuse* it. pedophiles and serial killers are born with mental defects too; and that does not justify their deviant behaviour. neither does it in the case of "homosexuality"

It is actually a mutation, A gay person Has a certain pattern in his brains caused by that mutation.I don't have my medical degree yet so I cannot say more about this cause I don't know, All I know is that it has been proven.

Caid Ivik · August 19, 2003

It needs no medical degree to find out it is an abomination of nature. Sexual attraction itself is based on our reproductivity, but with same gender you won't have any real results. It can be a selfsuggested deviation, as says Nav (hedonists don't care about lack of promiscuite women, so their homosexuality is caused by pure questions like "where should I put it today?") or psychical crippling, for which we have to find a cure.

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