OK, so, if someone has the XBF viewer to the state where they can display vertices and shit - I bet they worked out out by comparing it to standard web 3d or autocad files or soemthing, in which case, I wonder to what extent XBF may just be a renamed "standard" 3d file type, such as a mesh or something - maybe the VRML shite, as it would have to contain animation data based on conditions? I dunno, just stinking my ore in - but anyway, come on!!!