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One completely unique item that the Fremen invented was the Stillsuit and of course all the specialised items in the Fremkit (I think that’s what its called), a collection of survival items that would allow a Fremen to live independently on the open Bled.

And "Earth Worm Jim" where Jim's sidekick would quote the BG litany against Fear.

http://www.dunenovels.com/news/short_story.html try there, its in pdf.

The empire really fell apart when LetoII died,All that happened at the end of the first FH novel was a change of management. And hi2 Vangard3K :)

Was Paul not banished to the Bled? As was the fremen custom at this time? I thought he had no control over that.

Hi there Number6 that all looks Vinteresting:))

Hi Vanguard3000, Sorry to say that I've not heard of that publication.

You just gotta be a Chairdog :)

LOL ;D ;)

That was the point I was trying to make. :)

Its not a plot hole as such, perhaps just an omission, But why do you think neither Paul nor LetoII make a mention of the Nasty ancestor(?) Its a shame that the new books fall at this test, because its a good plot.

Yeah, is it a good or bad thing?. :)

But is she a pawn or a pawn-pusher? A bit of both really, a BG pawn while they are recruiting her and a power pusher once she joins them

Well this is what i think [hide] BH and that Kevin chap are setting up there own saga here, that being the final battle with the returning AI, the clue came in the butlerian jihad hen the Gedi Prime overmind launched all those probe's. And its the returning AI hordes that the Navigator sensed. bear in mind that these returning AL's would not foldspace tech and it could (i suppose) take them many 1000's of years to complete the journey, just in time for book 7. [/hide] So there:) ;D

thanx:)

I must say that those weren't the sort of rewards that I was referring to, and must again stress that the scifi mini series is not as bad as it could have been, However I'm not about to be convinced that just because a lot of Duneheads (Myself included) sat in to see it and rushed out buy it is any indicator of worth and quality. It is a fair attempt at recreating the story of Dune but falls far short with regards to the flavour and feel of Dune that Lynch's film manages with aplomb. And yes I do recognise that Lynch was way out story wise. That's why I'm so eager to see a compromise between the 2.

Hi Mahdi can you remind me what book that's in please?

Hi SW. Your quite right that a character named Scytale is in both MoD and the last two books that FH wrote, However I'm unaware of any direct link made by Herbert that these two characters are indeed the same person or a reincarnation. In MoD Scytale is presented to the reader as a Facedancer and the later Scytale as a Master. I don't believe that a Facedancer can be promoted as such purely because of the fact that FD's are creations of the Masters and as such would not be able to partake in Teilaxu religious rites.

Hit a shield with a Lightsaber? Well a Lightsabers a laser and if you strike a shield 0with a laser it explodes like a nuclear bomb.

Hi, heres a link to a wee amature site with a nice collection of Dune and Herbert quotes: http://kralizec.tripod.com/hquotes.html njoy:)

So your proposing that no matter how much more cash was sunk into the scifi version they could not have made it any better? From that I must assume you REALLY liked the butterfly like Navigators and the very poor quality desert scenes as well, while I'm on a theme the whole CGI contribution was rank. And if the production company are unable to improve the overall quality by the addition of great founds then that only proves how crap they are!! They got the rewards that they deserved i.e. not a lot!! Now b4 u all good flamey mad (shudder), chill. I'm not saying that their version is completely rubbish. I've praised it elsewhere on this forum.

Arafel: The cloud darkness at the end of the universe. Was LetoII fear that if he abandoned the Golden Path the humanity would die out. Ergo the only alternative was the prison of Sandtrout flesh and a 5,000 year rule of fear and despotism to crush the human soul and expedite the “Scattering”.

Lets be fair both attemps are not without merit. Lynch's try is all eye candy and production while the sci-fi channels mini was crippled by the low budget. Message to the sci-fi channel.... SPEND more MONEY on it and you'll reap the rewards.

What spoiler?

LoL, Good joke!!