thylacine

Thanks scotsman, I will download the RC and give it a try anyway. My installs have always been identical and I generally don't run mods. I have been checking out past sites and boards and it seems a lot of people had this problem and could never fix it. Someone reckons its because the code was pretty poor in the networking side of the game. Why they never put a patch out for that when so many people could not Network the game it I don't know. Seems they were only interested in fixing internet troubles. :- I will give the RC a go and if anyone else comes up with anything I would appreciate it. I have tried 802.3 and forced even packets and network identification as well as a multitudes of hardware. patches 1.06 and the earlier versions. thylacine

thanks erjin999, I wish it was that easy. I turn the firewall off and have removed it entirely. clean instal with no firewall and still after 15mins gaming it goes out of sync. I can just about set the clock by it. :'(

LOL, Actually when you watch the galaxy aircraft take off their wings tips start off nearly touching the runway and as they pick up speed they bend upwards more and more until they are flexed above the fuselage. Considering how big these babies, you can drive a bus into them, that is almost like flapping their wings. perhaps someone in the military was realy from Dune....... :O

Hi thanks for the info. Have applied 1.06 patches and never worked. As to the RC. Tried to find this but no luck so far. Links not working and I cannot find it with a search. :-

LOL life is like that. I never even got to LAN game dune 2000 but could play everything else. My son and I saved up for ages to buy 2 disks for the game so that we could play and we were sadly disappointed. It never ran more than 15 minutes in LAN and it has never been fixed by any of the patches and since back then we couldn't afford net time...... So count you blessings. we loved the game but could only drool...

hmm sounds neat, but gettign back to the title of your discussion, I notice that when insects fly it is either into your open mouth as you run or straight into my windscreen. Both end up with a splat. Not very good flying if you ask me... :O)

Hi, I came across this in Tiberian sun and Red alert 2. It Only did it with 2 of our computers and not the other during LAN games. May be a hardware quirk associated with custom built systems as not all hardware responds normally to windows when together, but try the following. .....Try turning off all other software plus ensure that the power saving is off completely. Make a power saving profile where the hard drive never turns off and everything else stays on, save it as "always on". This fixed it on one of the computers we had trouble with. The hard drive would power down and then the mouse would suddenly go wacky. We saved the game on the running comp then shut down, restored the game, and all was ok, until the power saving kicked in again. So fix that, and we could continue the game. .....Second hint...... Try reinstalling mouse drivers after the game is installed and make sure you don't have nortons programs running in the background. Removing all this fixed the other computer that did this sometimes. Hope this helps, I know there is something else but I haven't seen the problem for so long now that I can't remember what else we did. ... Thylacine..

Hi, Thanks for replying. The game works fine in Single player. It is a Multiplayer issue. When Logging onto a game or setting up/hosting a game it works fine for the first 15 minutes. All functions of Play work great up until 15 minutes passes then the game cuts out with a out of sync error. Both players freeze for a few seconds then they end up by themselves still playing the same game, but without a network link. The Game can be played singly then, but not connected. Both disks were legitimate disks. I say were, because though they were a present my son and myself gave ourselves one Christmas, we were sadly disappointed. we tried everything I could think of. Eventually after trying on and off for a few years we just gave up and gave one of the disks away to a friend. It was really a letdown. Others I have known locally who also had legitimate disks bought about the same time all said that they had a similar problem and they just never bothered to pursue it after the first few failures. We reinstalled hundreds of times complete with full unconditional formats and fdisking on various Hard drives both IDE as well as SCSI. Where SCSI drives were tried, all SCSI adapters were Adaptec. Computer software wise, All functions of power saving etc, were always turned off. Having absolutely no other software on the systems still resulted the same. Clean installs, new network cards, switched hubs etc have all been tried. Different hardware from Pentium 166's up to Pentium 850's have been tried over the years as we upgraded, and various friends tried the disks with their systems and the same resulted. We have had video cards such as, Voodoo 2 3000, Voodoo 3 and Geforce 2 cards as well as TNT etc. Sound cards have been variations of SB16 and other Creative Vibra cards as well as onbourd soundcards. Motherboards have been mostly Gigabyte with some Asus as well. It often appeared at first, as if, when we encountered another player, then the game dropped us out of sync. We tried deliberately not engaging or crossing the same territory and found that the same out of sync error repeated itself after approx 15 minutes. we tried finding each other immediately and sometimes that incurred a out of sync error a bit faster but again it would be about the 11 to 15 minute time. Differing network settings were tried with all the different hardware. Different video cards DirectX, drivers of all sorts. Windows 98 SE was the one consistent thing we tried at home. On different peoples systems they tried Win ME and 2000 as well. All were legitimate software. I once again tried the Westwood troubleshooting network settings, about 18 months or so ago and these failed as well. It has been a bug in my ear to say the least. I tend to believe that the CD's distributed here may have been a bad batch but I have never recieved a serious response from westwood, only automated ones. The local reps did not want to know about it and even refused to accept me sending them back to have them replaced. I have even tried the frametype and network address adjustments both with 10Mbit Networks as well as 100Mb networks. Various Netcomm and otehr network card brands as well. With and without hubs and with varying cables. All other games I can hook up and play without a hitch and even the most cantankerous can generally be sorted out in the long run. I even play LAN games with friends who have Mac's. I have played for years everyting from Arena and Command and Conquer through to Diablo2 and Quake Doom, Unreal tournament etc etc, but though I love Dune2000 and would love to play a LAN game...... getting it to stay hooked up.??.. ARRRGG.... to say the least. Can you help me with this please? I think I would die happier. Kind regards Thylacine

Re: Dune 2000. Networking. I connect on a Lan and always the game drops out after 15 minutes. It always fails to maintain a link and I have never been able to network the game regardless of what hardware I have bought over the years. Network cards, drivers, hubs, switched hubs, newer computers etc etc. I always used Win98SE. Westwood refuse to answer or address this problem as I have approached them countless times and after years of emailing them and getting no response I gave up. Any ideas? I tried just about everything I could but noone locally has succeeded in getting a Successful LAN game running either. Did we get a bad batch of CD's issued from Westwood? Any ideas anyone? kind regards Thylacine

Hello, I have only just found your site after having problems with Dune 2000 literally for years. I eventually gave up trying to get a response from Westwood etc. Logging in to see the problems you are discussing is disturbing. I understand that people are very petty and I have gone through enough in life to know how it can damage you and disillusion you. I do not know why the issue is the image?? You appear to be beautiful and intelligent and obviously helpful to others which speaks of kindness within. All of these qualities are admirable and wonderful. Do not let others destroy this. Do not let it become personal and soul destroying. Again, I understand how this can happen and as such believe that if you have come this far then you need to assess why it disturbs you and how you can be better defended against it. Take two breaths . then one first to think of leaving the stress behind and the second to decide on how you want to feel. not what you are going to do, instead just how you want, right now, to feel. The let yourself feel as you are. Find yourself again without becoming a puppet to someone else's strings. Then act as you wish. I am sorry if this all seems a bit deep or intrusive. I apologise if this is the case. I am just concerned over what I have just stumbled upon and the fact that it is about you as a person. That is the issue. May peace, love, good health, and happiness find you always amongst good friends Kind regards thylacine

Hi, A bit of info you may find helpful. Your hdd may be faulty but there are issues you may need to consider. thngs that can cause errors on your drive and give you these problems you are experiencing are also the following........ Ribbon cable. minor power spikes can cause failure of these and of data transmitted. = inconsistent annoying errors in windows and on boot up. Often telling you that the drive is not there or faults such as you describe. replace the cable Growth defects. = something like rust spots on the disk platter that start as a miniscule spot and grow like lichen on a tree. = bad areas on a disk. Nothing you can do except scandisk I choose SCSI drives as they error check 8 times rather than the 4 times that IDE drive do. Also SCSI Drives can be lowformatted by your card software to fix this. Faster and more dependant access = faster stable games :) The following solution to power plug issues, you do at your own risk and if you have no idea of electronics or electrocution injuries then get someone who does. Do not attempt it if you are not careful and disconnect the power to the system completely. Switch everything off and Remove the power plug from the wall.! I do not want to be responsible for someone electrocuting themselves while tinkering with their computer. A nasty and common problem is caused by loose power connectors that while they appear to be plugged into your drive, there is contact but it is in fact just sitting against the hdd terminals. that is, it is a loose fit on the pins. The cylinders are larger than the pins of the hdd. to fix this... First.. Turn the power off at the plug on the wall and remove it from the wall.....open your computer case and pull the power supply plug out of the back of the drive and crimp the power supply cylinders a little with a jewelers screwdriver or something small to close the loops JUST A LITTLE, (make sure they are still round or a little oval shaped otherwise you have squashed them and need to open them up again) of the power plug then plug it back into the drive. Remember TURN THE THING OFF AT THE POWER POINT FIRST BEFOR YOU START!!!! IN FACT UNPLUG IT. I can't stress this enough as you may fry yourself if you try this with the power on..... If not yourself then your power supply and maybe your motherboard as well. I have seen this happen by others doing something similar. Loose power connectors are a manufacturing "oversight" I believe. They cause hdd to spin up and down and to do stupid things if a vibration is transmitted through the floor or the system moved in any way. This is because they are basically connecting and disconnecting the power by bouncing around inside. This is a serious problem, intermittent contacts also cause an increase of resistence and therefor heat and spiking within the power to your whole system. I have found a lot of problems caused by this. tightening the connection can fix this. Cars also have a similar problem asn the intermittent loose connections also cause power drops that result in 9V instead of 12 V travelling around the system. Computer hdds running on 9v with a high current delivered by a bad connection is a nasty situation. Another issue is.. Damage to your hdd can also come from the heads hitting the platters. Too many people think the hdd's park their heads for protection but Windows constantly reads the hdd for swap file resizing. so if you wobble the case, pick it up while it is running or move it with your feet or a bouncy floor or hit the bench it sits on while frustrated with a game the heads may just contact the platter causing damage to some areas of your drive. If it is the FAT area of the drive then its death is inevitable. Do not use you system as a footstool as so many people do and wonder why their drives fail and windows constantly gets errors. Hope this sheds some insight to prevent future probs to whoever reads this regards thylacine