What Kind Of Map Do We Want?

[mendelbop]

So Im gonna start a new map producing tomorrow.

Im gonna report process here.

Do we want spice maps or non spice maps?

Taking any ideas you might have.

One idea I had was a map that would practically force infantry only battle. Meaning HUGE infantry rocks everywhere.

Then i might make some kind of 4 player version of sandy pass. (my favourite map by far)

[Navaros]

Make it a Spice Map. Non-Spice maps suck, and as you know, Hark is literally 100% unstoppable on non-spice maps if the Hark is an elite player.

A 4-player Sandy is a great idea.

I'd like to see more maps that are the same size as Guild Complex. Not too small, not too big. I find Emperor is sadly lacking in maps of this size.

Not sure how well putting Inf Rock everywhere would work in forcing Inf Battles, 'cause each house has vehicles that can easily own any Inf on Inf Rock without the Inf even being able to fire back. Although I can see how it may be useful for pinning someone down in the very early-game right outside his own base.

[DjCiD]

You can always make it where only infantry can leave the base all other units must be transported by adv carryall. Place some seitch or inf only landmarks in middle of maps to make inf a more important role in the game, also have the area around the landmarks impassible by anything other than inf so a mino or inkvine cant get in and kill them all. Force ppl to make infantry a more vital role in the game.

[slaphapy]

for regular infantry, yes there are mech units that own them even on inf rock, but if you have like 20 sard elites that you dont' just stand there like a moron, then they would easily own even a mino.

Rigel6669 created an infantry challenge map, it was a great job, but you can still build mech units if you know where to go on the map.

[mendelbop]

Im doing sandy for 4 first... Phew i had a bit longer day at work today so i think today im just gonna take some screenshots from sandy pass and then relax. Later im gonna use those screenshots to help me keep the sandy feeling in the 4 player version.

[DjCiD]

Are you going to have two rocks but bigger with two mvc's spawning on each rock? Or four small rocks like the ones in sandy?

I would like to see a four player like Twin Capitals. Is it be possible to have 2 mvc's spawning on the same rock? You couldn't pick teams that way could you, your stuck with who you spawn. ???

[mendelbop]

yes its possible. Still designing and thinking. Maybe there will be more than one version.

[DjCiD]

No, no... do Sandy the way you choose maybe we can talk about working on a Twin Capitals for 4 players afterward. ;)

There is already two two-player version of it. I would like to see a big 4 player one

[Navaros]

what sucks about Emperor is that you can't play the so-called "2-player Maps" with 4 people ::)

what a stupid design decision. Westwood should have let the Host decide to force 4-people onto a 2-player map if he so chooses. the official Sandy Pass Map, as well as MANY other "2-player maps" would actually be quite interesting to play with 4-players at once - allies stuck together on the same rock formation. but alas, Westwood chose to limit our fun and variety for NO tangible reason whatsoever simply because some IMBECILE said in a design meeting "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO we must only have TWO people on a TWO-person map, don't you see???!!!!!! it is DESIGNATED for TWO, and if we allow MORE people on the map at once, the Universe will IMPLODE on itself and all life as we know it will END!" [or something along those lines ;D]

[DjCiD]

It would be nice if maps considered small, medium and large were small maps played 2-4 people, medium played 2-6 and on large you could have 2-8. Something like that would be cool. 8)

It kinda reminds me of the maps I played in the Generals Beta test, since you could pretty much expand and build on everything it was kinda like that. Only problem is with Dune you cant build on the sand... well there is that one map where you can. *Worm Sign* There goes your base :O

[slaphapy]

Dj, i made one that is a 4 player similar to twin capitals but not exactly the same it's called weapons of mass distruction, on one side is giedi prime terrain and the other is rock... you could try it, if it isn't what you like, then i'm sure mendel could make one ;)

[DjCiD]

I just downloaded some new ones today.

• Ixians - EmpBFD Tribute
• Vils - Blades Fate
• Shapy - WoMD

haven't tried them out yet... don't wanna do it offline but I guess I will.

hey Gob would eight 50mb zips of the fanmaps be ok ;D

More ppl need more fanmaps for online 8) ... ever hear back about the official fan-made mappack ???

[mendelbop]

The map is ready and entering beta test in skirmish :D

[mendelbop]

released the map in new thread, comment and download there.

Gob, would you like to release it too? :)

http://www.dune2k.com/forum/?board=7;action=display;threadid=10723