TMA_1 Posted February 14, 2003 Share Posted February 14, 2003 These guys have always interested me. I just love them in the book and have always pictured them just like how they looked in Lynch's version of Dune. Eccentric, unkempt, and extremely intelligent and linear with logic. What do you guys think? how did you picture the Mentat and what most interests you about the order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard3000 Posted February 14, 2003 Share Posted February 14, 2003 Well, I saw the movie before I read the books, but I always picture the mentats similarly to the movie (God, this sentence is a grammatical nightmare!). Although I'm not exactly sure why they have very bushy eyebrows (the book said Thufir had bushy eyebrows, but I didn't think they were that bushy. :)), or why they wear fur coats over their uniforms.The mentats always interested me because they really represent the resilience of humanity. Problem: We can't use computers to think for us. Solution: Transform people into living computers.Also, I was always a big fan of Piter, and the whole idea of the twisted mentats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted February 15, 2003 Author Share Posted February 15, 2003 hehe yeah. many piter's grown in axolotl tanks. by the way I dont like the prequel's idea of the axolotl tank. From all my reading, I think that how they showed them in the book House Corrino was silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard3000 Posted February 15, 2003 Share Posted February 15, 2003 I think the idea that they showed/described them at all was pretty silly. ;)I'm also not a big fan of Piter having been Ghola'd in HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted February 15, 2003 Share Posted February 15, 2003 Yeah, they should have allowed the axlotl mystique untouched ;) But there description was how I had originally pictured them, and as far as I can tell they are pretty accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel_Worf Posted February 15, 2003 Share Posted February 15, 2003 The bushy eyebrow thing really bothers me, and I think they went over the top with Thufir in Lynch's version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted February 15, 2003 Author Share Posted February 15, 2003 I pictured them as totally different. I take the DE once again on this.lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted February 15, 2003 Share Posted February 15, 2003 What did the DE say they looked like? Because in the last two books the descriptions are exactly the same as Brian Herbert's descriptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard3000 Posted February 15, 2003 Share Posted February 15, 2003 Inoc: IIRC, they never actually described them. You never got to hear anything more than speculation as to what the tanks might look like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted February 15, 2003 Author Share Posted February 15, 2003 exactly. Well in the DE, axolotl tanks have gone through many evolutionary changes. They existed in the ancient past and have continually been modified through the centuries. The tleilaxu took some as their own and perfected them. Nobody knows what they look like or how they work exactly. I do believe other axolotl tanks were destroyed during the butlerian jihad. at least that is what I remember from the DE.I also love frank's other books. And how the DE's idea of the axolotl tank like in Destination: Void or the whipping star series is almost identical.I wish frank was alive so I could ask him many questions about things unsolved. I guess though that it makes it fun that they are so mysterious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Guerrilla Posted February 16, 2003 Share Posted February 16, 2003 I never had a image of how a mentat looked except what Herbert said about the eyebrows. I would also like to know why they wear the fur maybe it's a status symbol among the mentats. :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted February 16, 2003 Author Share Posted February 16, 2003 that is just in the movie. Lynch did that stuff in my opinion to show the eccentricity all the mentats. Everything about them physically and mentally was on the edge of lunacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel_Worf Posted February 16, 2003 Share Posted February 16, 2003 Oh, geez... I am starting to realize Lynch did a better job with Piter. I think Thufir is just plain 10 times as ugly as Gurney as it should be the other way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard3000 Posted February 16, 2003 Share Posted February 16, 2003 I really liked Lynch's Piter (Brad Dourif). Dourif is an excellent actor (my favourite, in fact), and he portrayed the psychotic mastermind beautifully.It is by will alone I set my mind in motion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel_Worf Posted February 16, 2003 Share Posted February 16, 2003 ^ That's a good line that implemented into the prequels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 Lynch's Piter was better...And, in HOD and CD, axlotl tanks are hinted at enough to get an idea of what they look like, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard3000 Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 Yeah, but it's all speculation. You never find out about them for certain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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