A calm debate

[Acriku]

Quote me where I said directly that you have not provided logic. Misquided logic IMO, but oh well.

[emprworm]

well i suppose it was nema that said it but it wasn't like you didn't defend what he said. Nema said it. I contended with Nema, to which you defended Nema, so you said it by association

;)

[Acriku]

Well if we do that then I guess I guess I believe in God if I agree with sneezer about anything ;)

[emprworm]

uhhhh.....

[Acriku]

My point is, if I don't respond to everything said and implied by sneezer then it would suggest I believe in God since I didn't refute that God existed among other things. Using your logic of course.

[emprworm]

no, that is not true. when nema accuses me of providing no logic and I refute that, then you come to Nema's defense that I indeed have not, then yes you are making the same statement by virtue of you defending Nema on that particular point

[Acriku]

When did I come to Nema's defense about logic? And why would Nema need to be defended anyway? He was on the offense of this debate for a while now, after you chose to acknowledge his posts.

[sneezer3]

My point is, if I don't respond to everything said and implied by sneezer then it would suggest I believe in God since I didn't refute that God existed among other things. Using your logic of course.

Also where in evolution does it say how life began? Riddle me this sneezer.

ever heard of the big bang? thats what the link was talking about. but nevermind.

Do you belive in God?

[Acriku]

Sorry but the big bang...*giggles*...is not...*chuckles*...evolution...*rolls on the floor laughing*

And Yes I accept Jesus Christ into my heart.

[emprworm]

"He was on the offense of this debate for a while now, after you chose to acknowledge his posts"

of course he was. he shares your views. how would I expect you to say anything else?

your statement:

predictable, testable, repeatable

[sneezer3]

Sorry but the big bang...*giggles*...is not...*chuckles*...evolution...*rolls on the floor laughing*

Then could you explan how we got here? and a vast majorty of Evolutionests do.

[Acriku]

An atheist does not always agree with an atheist...

[sneezer3]

Don't mean to make a worthless post. but i think you missed Emprworms reply at the bottem of the last page. ;)

An atheist does not always agree with an atheist...

Then how do you think we got here?

[Acriku]

Actually I was replying to empr's post with that post. ???

And, evolution isn't abiogenesis. It does not say where life came from! Get that through your head please :)

How did we get here...hmm...can't say "for sure" but there are a couple theories circulating about.

[emprworm]

yea, one theory is called Intelligent Design ;D

[sneezer3]

Actually I was replying to empr's post with that post. ???

How did we get here...hmm...can't say "for sure" but there are a couple theories circulating about.

Well? are you gonna tell us?

[Acriku]

It doesn't say how the universe began, it says by what. I only hope that you do not just stop with this theory on the origins of the universe, because it only answers by what. A designer.

[Acriku]

Surely sneezer you know atleast 2 of those theories...

[emprworm]

so what are we talking about the origins of the universe now?

to be honest, Acriku, under your theories, the same principles that drive evolution, also drove the universe so the two are not as distantly related as one might think

[Acriku]

Sneezer started it, so since this thread is a debate about pretty much anything to do with religion and science, it's acceptable. But if you would like to continue our debate, you can.

Evolution is not abiogenesis. Period. People might believe God started it all, and let it flourish, like deists. One doesn't have to lead to the other.

[sneezer3]

Sneezer started it, so since this thread is a debate about pretty much anything to do with religion and science, it's acceptable. But if you would like to continue our debate, you can.

Evolution is not abiogenesis. Period. People might believe God started it all, and let it flourish, like deists. One doesn't have to lead to the other.

Actully it started in another thread. but you started this one.

Most Christans belive in God. "In the begining God crated the heavens and the earth

[Acriku]

What thread did I start talking about the origins of the universe? And even if I did, which memory tells me I didn't, you began talking about it, so what's the problem?

And your point about the second sentence goes *woosh* over my head.

[sneezer3]

What thread did I start talking about the origins of the universe? And even if I did, which memory tells me I didn't, you began talking about it, so what's the problem?

I was talking about how this arguement got started in general. not one subject.

And your point about the second sentence goes *woosh* over my head.

You really do need to stop hanging around trains then. must have problems paying attion at school too.

[Acriku]

Actually no I do not have attention problems at school. But your statement that most Christians believed in God blew by my head if there was a point to it.

[sneezer3]

Actually no I do not have attention problems at school. But your statement that most Christians believed in God blew by my head if there was a point to it.

just kiding. :)

yeah. i'd say so. the bible says "In the begining was the word and the word was with God and the word was God." or "In the begining God crated the heavens and the earth"