Mistakes in the Prelude to dune series

[Beonid]

I found some mistakes, like: Shaddam=saddam

any more?

[Khan]

What do you mean Shaddam = Saddam, how is that a mistake.

[Dante]

Mistakes in the Preludes to Dune:

1) The Preludes to Dune.

The end.

[Beonid]

What do you mean Shaddam = Saddam, how is that a mistake.

Shaddam is supposed to be spelt 'Shaddam' but in the book it was spelt 'Saddam, as in Saddam Hussien, the notorious so called 'terrorist.

[Sober]

I doubt even BH&KJA would make that mistake. But then again, I don't have the prequels on me.

here's a bit from http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sf/dune-faq/part1/ :

4.3.1 _Dune: House Atreides_

- The planet Harmonthep is mentioned several times in _House Atreides_.

However, in _Dune_ we are told that Harmonthep is "supposed to have been

a no longer existent satellite of Delta Pavonis", indicating it was

destroyed long ago.

- The construction of the Harkonnen no-room we see in _Heretics of Dune_

happens here. However, _Heretics of Dune_ firmly establishes that "the

whole no-globe complex, some two hundred meters in diameter, was a

fossil preserved intact from the time of the Tyrant."

- The Kwisatz Haderach breeding program is said to go back 10,000 years.

According to _Dune_ it has gone on for 90 generations. That would work

out to 111 years per generation (the traditional figure is 20).

- In _House Atreides_, Piter de Vries is addicted to sapho juice. This

is not mentioned at all in _Dune_, but much is, on the other hand, made

of his addiction to spice (which _House Atreides_ doesn't mention).

- It appears to be general knowledge that the Tleilaxu are religious

fanatics. So how come it is such a major revelation for the Bene

Gesserit in _Heretics of Dune_ and is not known to any character in the

Chronicles before that?

- Elacca wood is described as "wood from Elacca". According to Dune,

elacca wood (note lack of capitalization) comes from Ecaz. (After this

was pointed out, the authors posted an "explanation" on their website.)

- In this book, Crown Prince Shaddam and Count Fenring take great care

to make sure no one discovers that Emperor Elrood has been poisoned. The

Almanak en-Ashraf in _Dune_ makes it clear that it was generally known

that Elrood "succumbed to chaumurky".

- House Vernius of Ix is a major player in all the prequels. However,

_Dune Messiah_ refers to the Ixian Confederacy, indicating no noble

House ruled the planet.

- According to _House Atreides_, cyborgs do not violate the tenents of

the Butlerian Jihad. According to _Chapterhouse: Dune_, they do:

"Cyborgs?" [...] Didn't Idaho know the residue of revulsion left

by the Butlerian Jihad even among the Bene Gesserit?

Cyborg was one of those potpourri words, too. Where did mechanical

additions to human flesh become dominant? When was the Cyborg no

longer human? [...] The Butlerian Jihad had left its indelible

mark on humans. Fought and won . . . for then. And here was

another battle in that long-ago conflict.

- "Fixing" a crysknife is explained as "keyed to the body of the owner

so it would dissolve upon his death". In <i>Dune</i> it's the other way

around: "Fixed knives are treated for storage."

- The Battle of Corrin is said to be the final battle of the Butlerian

Jihad, fought by the "Bridge of Hrethgir". According to _Dune_ it was a

space battle that took place twenty years after the Butlerian Jihad was

over.

- _House Atreides_ makes Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam out to be

Jessica's mother. We know definitely that Frank Herbert did not intend

this, as it was the only entry in _The Dune Encyclopedia_ he objected

to. (Willis McNelly convinced him to let it be included as a joke.)

- _House Atreides_: "He fired a near-invisible bolt of white-orange fire

from the lasgun..."

  _Dune_: "Paul pointed to the violence above the distant cliff--the

jetflares, the purple beams of lasguns lacing the desert."

(The authors have corrected their error by _House Harkonnen_.)

- Shaddam is crowned by a priest of Dur. However, Dur was a name given

to Leto II in the Scattering, several thousand years later. A deity (?)

Abu d' Dhur, "Father of the Indefinite Roads of Time", is mentioned in

_Dune Messiah_.

- One of the central plot points in _House Atreides_ is the death of

Leto's father, Duke Paulus. This happens before Jessica is born.

However, in _Dune_, Jessica displays what can only be first-hand

experience of the Old Duke.

- We are told in _House Atreides_ that the Baron Harkonnen is so fat

because he was infected with a disease. The Chronicles pretty much state

that it was due to a hereditary disposition and overeating:

GEoD [of the Baron]: "He was a fat, monstrous..."

"He was a seeker after sensations," Moneo said. "The fat was a

side-effect, then perhaps something to experience for itself

because it offended people and he enjoyed offending."

_Dune_ [of Rabban]: "There was yet some rigidity in his fat, but

it was obvious to the eye that he'd come one day to the portable

suspensors for carrying his excess weight."

_Dune_ [of Feyd]: "Here's one who won't let himself go to fat."

Note also that when Alia is possessed by the Baron in _Children of

Dune_, she starts to put on weight.

- According to _God Emperor of Dune_, Duncan had a sister who was killed

by Harkonnens. She is nowhere to be seen in _House Atreides_.

- _God Emperor of Dune_ also states that the Atreides rescued Duncan

from Harkonnen bondage. The events in the prequel don't seem to match

this description very well.

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4.3.2 _Dune: House Harkonnen_

- Jessica is made Duke Leto's concubine and Dr. Yueh joins the Atreides

before Paul's death. However, more than fifteen years later, in _Dune_,

Jessica says that she has only known Yueh for six years.

- Gurney and Liet-Kynes meet and become good friends in _House

Harkonnen_. Yet when they meet again in _Dune_ they don't recognize each

other at all.

- Kynes tells a smuggler "I am Liet-Kynes, son of Pardot Kynes". The

authors also claim that Liet was his sietch name. In that case it should

be kept secret from outsiders.

- In _Dune_, Gurney calls Duke Leto "the man who rescued me from a

Harkonnen slave pit, gave me freedom, life, and honor". However, in

_House Harkonnen_ he escapes the Harkonnens on his own.

- In _House Harkonnen_, Dr. Yueh is described as a greedy man. Contrast

this quote from _Dune_: "Does greed touch even you, Wellington?"

- _House Harkonnen_ has Ginaz ruled by an academy of swordmasters.

_Dune_ clearly refers to the House of Ginaz.

- According to _House Harkonnen_, the first time Duncan kills someone is

when he stabs Trin Kronos (a Moritani) in the back with his sword to

save his friend Resser. This takes place on planet Ginaz.

_Dune_ [Duncan]: "My sword was firs' blooded on Grumman! Killed a

Harkon . . . Harkon . . . killed 'im f'r th' Duke."

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4.3.3 _Dune: House Corrino_

- In _House Corrino_, Paul is born on Kaitan. From the opening paragraph

of _Dune_: "Do not be deceived by the fact that he was born on Caladan

and lived his first fifteen years there."

EDIT: on a funny note, here's BH&KJA trying to explain their "inconsistancies" : http://www.dunenovels.com/FAQ.html :)

[TMA_1]

hmm no, no way at all. I mean they do make some freaking glaring msitakes, but I have never heard of the shaddam saddam thing before. and in no way at all did they infer that it is a link. that is just silly