dex Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 feyd what kind of mechs are you talking aboutbattletech: fury's and burke tankes can take out a mech but most standard tanks can'temporer: tanks cant stand up in a straight up fight against any of the mechs except a mongoose which is not a tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampigai Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 I'm not talking of any mechs in particular. It's just than in war time I think that mech make a larger target whereas the tank being more flat is a more difficult target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exatreide Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 not to mention more menuvrable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphabeta4000 Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 but if they are bigger more weapons, more armour and quickly kill tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphabeta4000 Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 and height perspective as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampigai Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 Nobody said they would have more amor and more weopons but ok ;DI still can't see height as an advantage in this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphabeta4000 Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 see farther and can see bigger target Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampigai Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 Tanks will lie behind dunes or other obsticles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dar Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 A mech doesn't really have to be unmanurverable. A tank can really mount a turrent in comparision to the size of it's base. Where as a Mech could mount a gun the size of it's leg. The larger height means that it could fire further then the tank so the tank needs to get closer to the mech without getting chewed up.But in regards to mechs, what types are we refering to? Mechs like out of Battletech or Mechs like out of Emperor. If a BT mech, and depending on it's type, it could easily destroy a tank. Tanks are also dependent on the surfaces they drive on. A mech on the top of a hill can just shot down at a tank below. and the tank needs alot more force to get up the hill to the mech then the mech would if the tank was shooting it from the hill.So therefor a mech should come out trumps with a tank.... unless the mech is really of crap design or being piloted by a bad...pilot. Or the tank has some big artillery thingy on it or something along railguns and other outrageours weaponary.OK I'm starting to rant....I think I'll stop...what was the question?hmm....not bad for my first post...heh ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 many of the battletech tanks come with a full complement of ppc's, lrm's, srm's, lasers, and gauss rifles so dont underestimate some of them but mechs can carry tons and tons of just armor and weapons they also have intricate sensors to detect heat light and magnetic fluxuations and some have jumppjet capabilities ( vents to shoot out super heated plasma and rocket them into the sky) while e:bfd mechs have 1-2 weapons and slow speed :O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Posted January 21, 2002 Author Share Posted January 21, 2002 I have to admit that mechs can easily trample the tanks I mean a mech has greater armor and bigger and looks cooler I mean who would win a tank devastator or the Mech type>...... Man thats huge!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampigai Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 Tanks toady can see with termical vision. What it all comes down too is the commander and his strategi, and no it's not an advantage to be the highest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exatreide Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 try hiding your 500 foot mec in a 300 foot canon. It may give them visibility but mecs are hard to hide and there for a big target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron_G Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 exactly ex-atriedies thats the problem. building the thing and powering the thing. I think it would prolly need a nuclear reactor to power it. And the cost of building it would be enormous with current technologies :O. So i dont think well be seeing many mechs in the near future. But in the more distant future they may be as common as the tank is today. Think of it like this(i learned this in history class) Leonardo Davinci invented a tank like 400 yrs ago (or whenever he lived). Of course it wasnt like a tank today because it was made of wood and got around by people walking inside of it but the basic philosophy of the tank was still there. The problem was none of the kings of his day wanted to buy it into their armies, why?, because they thought that it was inferior to calvary, too slow, would easily catch fire etc... which it prolly was. But try putting a guy on horseback against a tank today and see what happens ;D so you see what im gettin at? a mech used in combat in our day and age would suck but who knows what battles of the future may be like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dar Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 My guess is that the mech would be powerd by a nuclear power plant (isn't that what the Devistators have in them?) or, like the BT Mechs use big engines ;DArmour will probily end up being lighter in the future as new Alloys and elements are found/created.And, again, if it is a BT mech, then it matters what type it is. A Chameleon on has large, small, medium lasers and 2 machine guns. Not a single LRM or SRM. (expects everyone to ask him what a Chameleon is.... ;D) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampigai Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 I don't know a thing about BT, but tanks will evolve too, maybe someday mechs will be the future and take the role of the tanks, and maybe they'll never be made. I would rather hope for a hover tank of some sort. ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphabeta4000 Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 well it is the future and a chameleon is a kind of mech isn't it but I don't know if it is off battle tech, another kind of com game or universe or what ever and mechs can carry more weapons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampigai Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 sometimes moverbillity makes up for heavier weaponry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphabeta4000 Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 well in the battle tech universe one mech goes at 75 km/h carries 40 missie, 6 autocannons, 4 lasers, 2 machine guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampigai Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 today a leopard 2 can go almost 70 km/h backwards and have a 120 mm canon and 2 7,62 mm machineguns, dunno what they'll look like in the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dar Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 The Chameleon is a Mech from the first BT game. Slow as all hell. There was also the locest and Wasp.and judgeing by the way you said Auto cannons and LRMs your a player of the Commander or Warrior games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampigai Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 The only mechs I've played with are those from c&c, E:BFD and Shogo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dar Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 Sorry, I was talking to that Alpha guy..... I'm still trying to figure out whos who. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphabeta4000 Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 yes and a good fan anyway those mech machine guns are way better than current tech, (something like a gau/8 in this time) the autocannons are like machine guns but with really big ammo and we all know what lasers do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 bt mechs are powered by fusion engines moved by electrical impulses sent through synthetic myomer muscles the 100 ton mech daishi can carry several tons of weaponry and go to speeds of 68 kilometers per hour or 80 with a masc many of the weapons could smash a tank before it could even dent an armor platetake the gauss rifle uses superconductive magnets to hurl a nickle (???? help with the other part) slug at past the speed of sound this slug weighs around 700-800 pounds one of these would break an aircraft carrier in half not to mention a tank. lrm shoot up to 20 missles out of each launcher each missle is highly explosive and just one would destroy most of a tank. auto cannon rounds send out depleted uranium slugs weighing 30-40 pounds each sending out a max of 20 some are also highly explosive and some explode into shrapnel. tanks suck mechs win the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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