Ian Posted September 28, 2003 Share Posted September 28, 2003 I'm trying to run emperor on my new computer. Everything installed fine. I autoupdated fine. However, whenever I try to run the game, it brings up the opening window my screen goes blank and then cuts back into windows as though nothing happened.I'm running Windows XP and I have the most recent version of Emperor. I have the newest drivers for my video card (Radeon 9800 pro). I also have directx 9. Any ideas on what I can do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunenewt Posted September 28, 2003 Share Posted September 28, 2003 Can you post a DXDiag. Are you running Norton Anti-Virus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted September 28, 2003 Author Share Posted September 28, 2003 I'm running Zone Alarm and AVG antivirus. . . Emperor ran fine on my old system with those installed.Sorry, what is a DXDiag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunenewt Posted September 28, 2003 Share Posted September 28, 2003 go to your Start menu and then click on Run and type in DXDiag and run it.Try playing Emperor with alerts switched off on Zonealarm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted September 28, 2003 Author Share Posted September 28, 2003 ok, attached the results of the dxdiag. . . tried running with ZA and AVG turned off entirely but change.[attachment archived by Gobalopper] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunenewt Posted September 28, 2003 Share Posted September 28, 2003 Do you mean there was no change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted September 28, 2003 Author Share Posted September 28, 2003 yeah, sorry. It made no difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunenewt Posted September 28, 2003 Share Posted September 28, 2003 What programmes do you have running in the background? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted September 28, 2003 Author Share Posted September 28, 2003 other than ZA and AVG nothing. Other than that just standard OS stuff. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunenewt Posted September 28, 2003 Share Posted September 28, 2003 I think the latest drivers/Direct X 9 could be causing the problem. Try downloading some older ones and look at this thread:http://www.dune2k.com/forum/?board=4;action=display;threadid=8710 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted September 28, 2003 Author Share Posted September 28, 2003 The problem occured before I installed DX9. When I first booted up my machine it was one of the first programs I tried running. I'll have a look through that thread. Thanks for your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunenewt Posted September 28, 2003 Share Posted September 28, 2003 Thats ok although for better help you'll have to wait for one of the Tech Moderators to come on. I'm sure they'll sort it out for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobalopper Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Is this a fresh install of Emperor? Sometimes if you do a major update, like installing SP1 for XP, re-installing Emperor fixes that problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted September 29, 2003 Author Share Posted September 29, 2003 It's a fresh install of emporer on a fresh install of XP. . . or atleast it was. Emperor was one of the first programs I installed on my new comp. No service packs installed, and I've since uninstalled/reinstalled Emporer to no avail. Any known issues with Radeon cards Sound blaster Audigy cards?I think it must be hardware/driver issue, because I was able to run Emporer just fine on my old system with essentially identical software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gryphon Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 You could try to ad the " +w" option to the Emperor startup shortcut. . it might help.. .Have you tried the WinXP backwards-compatebilety option for Emperor battle for Dune ?Besides the above mentioned topic. . you could try to lower your desktop resolution before you run the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted September 29, 2003 Author Share Posted September 29, 2003 I already tried the compatibility mode (all of the options) which made no difference.I just tried the +w (what does that do?) option and reducing the screen resolution and the problem persisted.I'm totally stumped. . . but again thanks for the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Mitten Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 Here I go again. ;)Ian there is a web site for modified ATI drivers, they helped my problem and a few others who had Nvidia cards.They might just do the same for ATI.Link is : http://www.omegacorner.com.If that doesn't help try closing all background progs using ctrl,alt,delete, scroll down the list and close Anti virus progs especially.Note:clicking close in the taskbar does not stop the anti virus from running completely.Then re-install Emperor and the v1.09 patch.Here is a list of what needs to be running in xp:systemsmss.execsrss.exewinlogon.exeservices.exelsass.exesvhost.exe(there may be multiple instances of this one,all required)Explorerspoolsv.exeemexec.exe(maybe,if you have a logitech mouse) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 Please keep this thread going - as I now have the same problem on two PCs (we like the LAN game), but with a twist...Both PCs use XP, one Home, the other Pro. Emperor-Dune worked fine until a few (3-4) weeks ago, when the same symptoms we saw in other threads appeared - game tries to start, emperor.exe process appears, then ~ef7194..(nice copyright screen)...then nada.Clean re-install (including editing out Emperor stuff in the registry) doesn't work. Disabling NAV doesn't work - I will try and de-install NAV over the weekend, then reinstall the whole shebang. So given the two machines have very differnt hardware configs (one is a notebook, the other a desktop) my hypothesis is (a) a MS "security fix" has bust things, or (b) a NAV update has busted things. When I deinstall NAV we'll see, but that is only a temporary fix as I get a lot of virus attacks.I am just hoping somebody a lot more savvy than me can suggest something as this game is an old favourite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Mitten Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 Do you have an LG cd rom ?There is a known issue with win xp and cd rom drives, after installing a particular SP2 patch to windows.Let me know also which graphic card you have installed in both pc's and which drivers you have. ;)Also is autoplay active on both pc's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 >Do you have an LG cd rom ?<The notebook (WP Home) has a DVD, the desktop (XP Pro) has a DVD and CD-RW. So I don't thing an LG CD-ROM is the problem. Remember, I have been playing Emp for 6+months on these machines; it only stopped working in the past few weeks. Thus my hypothesis that is is caused by a Microsoft "patch".I'll send you the configs under seperate email - from what I remember the desktop has ATI, the notebook an embedded Intel video chipset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Mitten Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 If you do a search at Microsoft, they list some fixes for cd rom drives.They are aware that some of their patches cause problems !You might have to do what I did and phone them at Microsoft.They then send you an E-Mail with a link to download the fix zip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 9, 2003 Author Share Posted October 9, 2003 Tried running with the minimum programs listed above. . . no go. I have a sony drive and no service packs installed. I'm not really in to installing custom drivers. . . I value the performance boost my current drivers give me in other apps. Any other ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Mitten Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 Have you got the 1.06 patch for Emperor installed ?Download this and check if your fast write is enabled.Here is the link: http://www.aida32.hu/downloadAfter you download this prog,click on Motherboard/chipset, there you will see listed all your graphic card settings.Hope this helps a little,if not it's a really good program, go through every sub menu and you will find alot of very useful info, about your computer. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 First, I want to really thank all the people who responded to the problems I was having. This site is a very cool resource, with lots of useful tips and information.In the hope of helping other poor souls......Remember, I couldn't get eDune to work with XP; it just wouldn't load?Surprisingly I eventually managed to get eDune working - WITH NAV!! How? Well, as with most computer fixes, I had to get awfully methodical. It took a while. (to complete that is, as opposed to me getting methodical)First, I deinstalled eDune, cleaned up afterwards, including editing out all references in the registry.I then updated every driver I could find, using Windows Update, and the manufacturer site for the video.I then cleaned out all the temp files I could find, deinstalled any old programs I didn't need, deleted any old files...usual housekeeping stuff. Then ran DEFRAG for good measure.Okay - with the PC in the best shape I could make it, I re-installed DUNE using the "CDROM" patch EMPENGINSTFIX10; taking the time (as the instructions said) to first set up a new "SETUP folder, copying over the new setup file, then installing eDude, then copying the new game executable over.AND IT WORKED!Now if I can just work out why it now causes my desktop to bluescreen at random times, I will be happy. But it only occasionally womps my game....Thanks again for all of your help, guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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