Gothic 2

[Harkdawg]

Well ive been playing this one a little. So far so good... Graphs are really nice. Only thing wich was disturbing me a little was that while in other games such as Pirates of the carribbean, Morrowind etc. when looking with mouse everything was smooth, but in Gothic theres something wierd, but after playing it a little im already used to it.

Game itself is much like morrowind etc. u walk around with ya guy completing quests, developing ure carachter, buying new stuff etc.

Since i enjoy playing games like these and this one has 3cds i hope i get to spend some nice long quality time with it :)

And as always, my carachters gonna be a mean Warrior with good old sword :)

[Navaros]

it just so happens that i've made a review of the original Gothic

Gothic sucks, and Gothic 2 sucks twice as much. Pardon the spacing in my Gothic review - that was to avert a censor during the orginal publication of my review. note: the original publication of this review was aimed straight at the developer and publisher so if i refer to "you" in this review, that is who it is directed at.

here you go, Nav's very own review of Gothic 1, and remember, 2 sucks just as much but twice as bad:

Gothic s u c k s. Here is a detailed breakdown of why Gothic

S u c k s:

1. Graphics: The graphics s u c k. Anyone who has seen a non-modified screenshot or played Gothic understands that it's very ugly to look at compared to other games using similar types of environments.

2. Voice Acting & Writing: Most of the voice acting *really*

s u c k s. The exceptions are the guys who did Gomez, Raven, Thorus, Saturas, Milten, Xardas, Scorpio, Smithy (which is probably just your only two qualified voice actors doing multiple voices for all the characters i mentioned). The rest of those voice actors were horrible, *ESPECIALLY* your main character who was grossly under-qualified for the job. Note: I am talking about the English version of the game. I don't know where you hired them all from but next time I suggest you go to North America and hire some real talent for a change instead of using incompetent local voice actors who barely speak English. It really detracts from the RPG experience. The writing was just as bad. Again, spend a buck or two and hire a competent translator next time. Btw, I am *STILL* wondering how the heck stuff gets into the Barrier but can't get out. That make no sense whatsoever and is never addressed or explained in the game at all. If there is a hole in the Barrier for things to pass through, then surely things can move in and out. That's common sense.

3. Gameplay is pathetic: Gothic has one of the worst play-control setups I've ever seen. Controlling your character with a Sword is awkward, clunky and non-responsive. Not fun at all.

4. The interface is a chore: Trading anything takes forever. Getting rid of junk takes forever since each piece of junk has it's own box, even if you have thousands of pieces of junk on you, all which have their own box. Accessing your inventory also takes forever. To switch gear you often have to drop an item on the ground and pick it back up again even if you start with both items already in your inventory. Even worse, you have to cycle thru endless screens of junk to find necessary pieces of inventory on many occasions. This sort of backwards, time-wasting, poorly-done interface is the kind of thing I'd expect from an RPG released for a 286 platform.

5. Sound & music is worthless: There is not even any listenable music in Gothic. It might as well not even be there. Only exception is the Old Camp music. That is at least decent (tho nowhere near as good as music in other games of the genre). The main "travel music" is grating, shallow and repetitive as are all the other bits of music. Once more I have simliar advice for PB: hire someone *qualified* to make music before you let any be included into the game. The "ambient sound" is even worse. There is only about 2 or 3 different lines in the whole game and they keep being repeated infinitely over and over again, non-stop. Good way to drive a gamer insane. Next time there is a killing spree, instead of looking to Doom/Quake/Duke Nukem/Soldier of Fortune, it's much more logical to look at Gothic.

6. I am not a junkie: I do not use illegal drugs. Therefore, I do not appreciate having illegal drug use being depicted in a game I paid for. Tho Gothic does not *depict* illegal drug use, Gothic *GLORIFIES* illegal drug use. This is utterly disgusting and I wish Gothic would be banned from the shelves of any non Adult-Only stores for this very reason. PB is telling kids to go out and use illegal drugs in every spare moment and that doing so is "cool!" I know most of the PB development team must be junkies and maybe that's why they glorify illegal drug use, but it's NOT cool and if you guys weren't so busy frying what little brains you started with by using illegal drugs then maybe your game wouldn't have turned out so crappy and it might have sold a decent number of copies.

7. The Roleplaying Model/Story of Gothic is a farce: Most of your character decisions are irrelevant and have no real effect on gameplay. It doesn't matter what Camp you choose, you still do all the same Missions even tho it makes no sense at all to be working for a Camp that you are against. Gothic provides the *ILLUSION* in Chapter 1 that it will actually *matter* what Camp you join, when in reality Gothic just has *one* generic plot that makes no sense whatsoever, not three. This just makes the poor story of Gothic far worse off because the insanity of presenting the player with what appears to be a big choice and then showing the player: "we were just leading you on, your choice makes no real difference in this game at all but you're already 17 hours into the game so it's too late for you to do anything about it now!" will make any rational person hate PB for being misrepresentative and misleading. I am beginning to think that they did this exclusively to get good Reviews from critics: most critics won't play past Chapter 1 to write their Review of the game so will be presenting a false impression to the readers by claiming Gothic has open-ended gameplay and that your decisions actually make a difference for how the game plays out. In reality, Gothic has Zero replayability.

8. Too few enemy models: There is a total of what, 10 enemy models in the entire game? Talk about BORING. No variety at all. Kill the same 10 enemy models thousands of times. Yawn.

9. Bugs galore: There are tons of gameplay bugs in this game that really desperately need to be patched. If I bothered to write them all down as I went along, this entire post would probably be twice as long as the one you're reading.

10. The Ending was limp: 50 hours of tedium, and I get to see a 30 second Quicktime movie that doesn't explain anything about the story followed by one 10-second long voice-acting line and that's it. If Gothic was actually a good game, then I'd be livid over such an impotent ending.

[nampigai]

I want Gothic.

[graveside]

both the gothics are good in my opinion and i have them both, and what you say is just your opinion nav not everyone elses

the only thing bad about gothic 2 is that its to easy, way to easy.

nav about the voices, the game doesnt have lots of different voice actors theres only 16 in the second one not sure about the 1st one though, they cant afford to keep paying profesional actors to do them thats also the reason why the diego in 2 sounds different to the original one, it doesnt cost a buck or 2 they were all professionals they just couldnt afford them.

the controls are easy

trading and accessing your inventory are also simple not hard to press tab you know ::) and you can hold a button to speed up trading, not sure which its different in the 2 of them

it doesnt glorify drug use at all, thats the sort of stuff that happenes in every day life.

do you know that any of the developers use drugs? probly not so stop makin accusations.

theres more than 10 enemy models you cant expect them to put hundreds of different monsters in a small world like that.

theres bugs in every game.

50 hours??? jeez you must be really bad at these games

on the whole its good game, the expansion should be out now i think or pretty soon anyways.

[Harkdawg]

Gothic rocks PPL!!!

After ive done with this one ill get Gothic 1.

And now afer Nav's spoken, all the more reason to get it and try it! Why u ask??

Beacus when was last time Nav was right about anything? THATS RIGHT - NEVER -

[playerap]

sry i didnt like it i thought it was gay www.isaria.com go there for a real game !

[Danuary]

I agree with nav on the drugs, and the enemy models, but you know what nav? I never noticed that! the game was awesome and extremley fun ALSO if you actually took time and listened to the story, the barrier lets things in but kills anything living that goes out.

why does magic need to be explained? You can't its like going on the set of some big Sci-fi show and asking them how all the technology worked, nav its a story, its fiction, its not meant to be real.

[fremfedeliteNIAC]

i think nav just like to complain about things

thats 52 lines of pure unadultarated whining up there people. you should feel proud to witness it

[playerap]

umm ...........he was stating opinion dont critisize him for it simple as that

[fremfedeliteNIAC]

lol yes and he posts his opinion about everything, and its all very very very negative.

always.

[playerap]

i do agree nav shut up for once