You are may be truth Acriku, it's may be an idealistic discussion, but i think there's no reason either to move a post about cheating... This forum becomes like the official's Emperor forum... So if you can't report a cheater here ... where can you do that ? Why not just create a cheat section in the forum so that everybody will be happy ? Those who are bored of cheat don't read, the others do ! I think moving the problem to Gobs dongeon will never bring any solution ! (sorry for that ... but truth ! ) and looks like an "Official Hand" on this forum... it's a shame... cause I really like it ! :P When Lukonnen and Krazyorse talk about "cheaters" they talk about people who use the Battle Clan bug... They don't talk about a guy who create 100 units by cheat or something unproovable... just about disconnections... and this is the main problem in Emperor... and it is solvable by ourselves ! We love Dune, Dune still have some 'minor' bugs but is still one of the best games I've ever played ! and we can manage with them ! Now about who's the lier and who's not ... in this case it's VERY easy to find out ! it could be a look at the stats... And better again, if everybody can report a quitter and start a discussion about that guys there will be a change ! cause some clans knows each other and knows they are honest! with these links you can be nearly sure who's the lier and who's not ! (not in an official way but everybody will be able to make his own thinking about him)! And if it makes that people play more against known clans and relations of these known clans, may be the clans who change name everymounth (to do you know what) will not do it so easily ! wow is it still english ? lol As a democratic people I think discussion can solve a big part of the problems in life... but putting his head in sand like a shaid hulud will never do anyhing... may be just attract more worms on Dune ... hehe ;) Respects to all ! ps : it's not easy for us to post in english so plz don't stop on the form of the post... written just after the facts... when the victim is again "hot"... wich makes difficult again the writting of it ... thx for comprehension !