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"Wrong empr, christianity holds the ten commandments, THE christian morality. I don't know about the other religions, perhaps someone could shed some light onto that."

then atheistm holds the amoral axiom "there is no universal morality", THE atheist moral philosophy.

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That is your fanatic opinion. All atheism is, is the lack of belief in a god(s). As Ripskar said before, beyond that there is no overall unifying factor. You put some in there, and you are wrong in doing that. I am not going to comment in that thread, because the very sight of it is rediculous to any atheist here. I wouldn't change your mind by posting, so why bother.

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lol! fine, you don't have to comment in that thread. go run and hide and post more "babies go to hell" threads!

meanwhile, I am going to let all the potential young atheist converts know the doctrines of atheism...in case they are thinking of conversion. ;)

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In that atheism is just lack of believing you should be right, Acriku. Atheism is an anarchy state of mind. After a few generations is atheist's mind so chaotized, that the morale from religious era is disappearing. That's why your country has the law, to legalize morale, and make it de iure unbrakable. Altough it's not based on inpossibility (caused by mind-barrier) but by threat of punishment.

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It isn't hiding, it is ignoring the rediculous. I will read all of the posts there, but hardy worth posting as many are doing a good job of it so far.

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suit yourself. but you'll miss out on all the fun!! :D

and it isn't rediculous at all. let me prove it to you:

"The universe does not need a creator."

sounds appeasing and familiar...no?

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Some may indeed have that position, but then again unifying atheists under one doctrine would be rediculous.

Caid, it isn't the lack of believing, it is the lack of beliefs in a god(s), atheists can have all other beliefs we want. And christians break the law as well, I do not see a point.

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But at least they have some and should honor them. If you will honor and never brake them too, then you have same place in Heaven as good christian. Just cease your anti-djihad, you death knight ;D

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Some may indeed have that position, but then again unifying atheists under one doctrine would be rediculous.

same would be said of Christians. i have no unity with a mormon, yet they are labeled Christians.

to the same degree we can logically unify christians under a doctrine, so too can we with atheists.

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Well if they believe in the Bible they should, but then again don't they also believe that there are more chapters of the bible that were left out. Or is that the Lattrday Saints?

Then again not all Christians keep the Commandment, we believe in them and the bible but because of our sins we do not keep them. It doesn't mean we are no longer Christians it just means we are not perfect, we are human and we sin, just like every other human. Only one person was born that did not sin, and it was his death that paid for all of ours, no matter what religion we choose are sins are P.O.D. - Payable on death, all you must do is accept.

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Ok, so it is agreed that not all christians follow the bible, and still are christians?

If this is correct, then I am sorry for unifying christians under the 10 commandments.

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If they have asked Christ into their life, believes and accepts that Jesus died for their sins their name is written in the book of life, they now belong to God and cannot be taken away. Its like being let out of a jail cell and the cell is destroyed you can not be put back in. Now this is just what I believe, seeing as how Christian religions can differ from one another, I don't wont to speak for all Christian Religions.

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Ok, so it is agreed that not all christians follow the bible, and still are christians?

If this is correct, then I am sorry for unifying christians under the 10 commandments.

they are labeled as Christians. yet I am not claiming the label is incorrect. I think it is just fine and dandy to classify people with a statistical label even though their are variances within the classification- as long as in general the classification is faithful.

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Non-sequitor TMA. Not having the belief does not mean denying it, what if a person lives on an island alone, and they have no belief in a god(s), are they denying that belief? No, because they do not know of this belief to deny it.

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a lack of belief requires a denial of that belief.

As in cognitively believing not to believe? Thus your choice to not believe is actually believing in it.

what if a person lives on an island alone, and they have no belief in a god(s), are they denying that belief? No, because they do not know of this belief to deny it.

So he is blind but not by choice... he has no way to be taught how to see. Where as you can see but choose not too.

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As in cognitively believing not to believe? Thus your choice to not believe is actually believeing in it.

hehe, I have heard that before and it is great.

All normal people attain the level of intellect that they ask questions about God. Once there is a knowledge of god, you either accept it or deny it. a lack of faith or having faith in that diety.

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DJ I was showing TMA that lacking a belief does not require a denial of that belief.

All normal people tma? Now those who do not ask questions about god are handicapped? Retarded? Normal in what way? The person on the island is not prone to start asking questions about god. Being on the island, there is no stimuli to trigger such questions. Living a life of survival leaves little time to ponder about a god.

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DJ I was showing TMA that lacking a belief does not require a denial of that belief.

it most certainly does if you are confronted with it....and then subsequently deny it.

hence the majority of atheists in the world.

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While he was surviving out there catching fish he may start to wonder and ask why am I here? Who knows where that question would lead him... maybe he would think he was put there by something greater than him... wonder who or what that would be or what purpose he was here for. If he never has any other contact till he died he would never know that he was meant to be more than a fisherman but a fisher of men.

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empr, are you suggesting that atheists are nothing more than rebels, fighting against god?

Dj, all of that is possible, but then again if he missed critical periods of learning, he could spend the rest of his life not able to think that critically.

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