dportela Posted December 31, 2001 Share Posted December 31, 2001 From the Terminology of the Imperium at the back of Dune.GINAZ, HOUSE OF: one-time allies of Duke Leto Atreides. They were defeated in the War of Assassins with Grumman.GRUMMAN: second planet of Niushe, noted chiefly for the feud of its ruling House (Moritani) with House Ginaz.So wait a sec...when was this War of Assassins? Is this the conflict described in House Harkonnen? If so, then why isn't it made clearer that House Atreides and Ginaz were allies before? And wouldn't the be allied EVEN MORE later on, since Dunca helps to save the day?Or is this something earlier? Can't be, because then they would be allies of Paulus or someone else, and not of Leto, as quoted above.UNLESS, this war occured in the 15 years between the end of House Corrino and the beginning of Dune. Thoughts? Ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccp7x Posted December 31, 2001 Share Posted December 31, 2001 The Swordmasters of Ginaz and the House Atreides shared similar viewpoints on many issues, honor, etc. Plus, Leto only came into contact with the Ginaz after Duncan Idaho was sent to train with them. One-time allies can also be interpreted to mean at one time they were allies of Duke Leto Atreides. During the War of Assassins with Grumman the Ginaz were supported by the Atreides but they were defeated nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted January 1, 2002 Share Posted January 1, 2002 They were not formally allies, but they had a common enemy - Grumman. Plus, Leto had Duncan in Ginaz, and so is helpful to the ginaz when being attacked by the Moritanis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard3000 Posted January 1, 2002 Share Posted January 1, 2002 Just to clarify: I believe the Ginaz-Moritani war seen in House Corrino was the "war of assassins" mentioned in the Terminology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordos45 Posted January 2, 2002 Share Posted January 2, 2002 Or maybe its just the prequel screw-up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaronMoritani Posted January 2, 2002 Share Posted January 2, 2002 War of Assassins is a general term meaning the type of warfare in Dune. I have also read it in the back of the Dune novel and it is a bit confusing.Long live House Moritani! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard3000 Posted January 3, 2002 Share Posted January 3, 2002 Pfft! Moritanis!Long live House Ecaz! ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordos45 Posted January 4, 2002 Share Posted January 4, 2002 ok if you want to start a war then at least declare kanly first. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted January 5, 2002 Share Posted January 5, 2002 A judge of the change must also be nominated and accepted by both sides. Unless you're not going to bother with a formal war of asassins, but instead bend or break the convention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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