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Well Bush's original excuse...I mean...primary reason for invading Iraq is over.  According to CNN just now, the hunt for WMDs in Iraq has been ended, without finding them.  Of course the President still has his other reasons he gave once no WMDs were being found to rely on, like freeing the Iraqi people (despite, according to the official Interim Government survey, killing 100,000 civilians), and desposing a dictator (That we financed and gave weapons to in a war with Iran).

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I heard that earlier.

So does this mean that they will be leaving, since Iraq is no threat without their WMD? ;) ;)

Does this mean that the threat advisory from the Department of Homeland Security will be lessoned? I heard that it will rarely go to guarded and never go to low. Pretty much a scare tactic to keep the public scared.

And if the government did put it to low and there was a terrorist attack, they would all get fired at DHS. So keep it at medium to high level, so if there is an attack, you can not blame them for having it at low.

I always chuckle when they say "terrorist threats are imminent" yet they dont answer any of the 5 Ws or How. They do that every so often to keep the public scared of the terrible terrorists.

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There seem to have been signifigantly less "The world will soon end" warnings since Bush was re-elected...but he wouldn't use scare tactics...  ::)

Oh no I imagine we must stay for Bush's secondary reason he made once none started to show up.  We're there to "Free the Iraqi people" and "Help them establish a Democracy".  I doubt the color coding will ever go down to guarded even. 

As for never answering Who, What, When, Where, Why, and How...there was a cartoon I saw a motnh back where Tom Ridge wakes up screaming in bed with his wife, and his wife asks what's wrong, and he goes "Be vigilent honey, something terrible is wrong, but I can't tell you what".

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the weapons are in syria, in the beka valley. I believe they do exist, as I have researched this independantly and there is a large consensus that the weapons were transplanted. People dont really realize how smart saddam really was as a leader, and as an individual. What people dont really read about (because it isnt in the large press, you have to find this stuff through smaller channels) is that there were large convoys going to syria and into the beka valley during the talks when the american government was telling him to surrender his wmd's.

Nobody has checked syria out though, and george dubya decided to overthrow iraq, instead of focusing on the more insidious allies of terrorism like Iran and syria. Iraq was definitely a threat, but we should have been smart enough to see that those weapons were transplanted.

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Well, well... so they did not find any WOMDs. Extremely smart of the Bush administration to let it slip away like that. Ask me, if I were walking in Bush's shoes, I'd send in my special non-existant black ops and place WOMDs there. :D

I mean, they did it once, some 40 years back when a man named John F. Kennedy was shot, so why not?

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The government tried to let it slip under the radar.  The Washington Post, I think it was, was the first to report it to the people.  As for the Bekar Valley, perhaps, but I think Iran is on Bush's list before Syria...unless he wants to give the CIA a chance to redeem themselves by checking it out?

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I'm pretty sure we would've invaded Iraq even if there had not been reports of WMDs.  It's an official part of our Imperial policy, we're going to bump off the countries that have oil deposits and/or pipelines going through them, employ a form of government that mimics our own, and keep a Viceroy-In-Waiting (John Negroponte)in an embassy to make sure the legitimately elected government doesn't get out of line.

It's really quite a brilliant plan, we can invade other countries, say we're there to bring freedom and peace blah blah blah (just enough BS to placate the 'Mericun public) and keep a legion..err...division...or two to prop up the colonial institution.  Then we make sure 'Mericun corporations have a dominant and controlling interest in the rebuilding/maintenance of infrastructure.

I'm all for imperialism, I just wish we were more honest about it, and I probably would've gone about it a different way if I were president.  I'm sure it would be more popular if we explained we were going to build a New World Order based on 'Mericun ideals through force if necessary.

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Western world is colonizing third world (and countries like Iraq), not necessarily with their people, but with ideas and corporations.

The western world is destroying their cultures. Well, Western culture has been destroying/changing cultures for thousands of years, you would think they would learn after a while that forcing them to adapt is not always for the better (for the indiginous people).

And if you say they are simply adapting/learning to these new ideas/corporations, I think we are all wrong.

In 3 years Iraq has gone from absolutism to a "democracy". Many non-Iraqis are getting work in Iraq and others are getting jobs because of the invasion and cleanup.

Iraqis will still be "enslaved", not by Saddam, but by corporations and other governments who tell them what to do.

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