Imperial Sardaukar Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 Could one of you posters explain to me the Holtzmann Effect, how does it work? Where did it originate from? Does it have actualy basings and whatnot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 Well it would all depend if you want the information based on Dr. Willis E. McNelly's Dune work or Kevin J Anderson and Brian Herbert on the history part.Hmm, as to how the Holtzmann Effect works, I am not sure. The Holtzmann Effect is involved with folding space and personal/other shields (possibly other creations too). Will look into it, but I don't have much time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 Comes up once every few monthshttp://www.dune2k.com/forum/index.php?topic=10637.msg174807#msg174807 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erjin999 Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 An Error Has Occurred!The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you. :O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 Would help if I didn't post the version that was reposted into a thread that got dungeonised."here is part of an explanation of how I think it might work...The Holtzman effectOverviewThis phenomenon is caused by a wave, the Holtzman wave, whichis related to light and the EM spectrum - but is not of that spectrum. For wheereas light is radiation - it induces heat in substances which absorb it - the Holtzman wave (or H-wave) induces a kinetic force. Light encourages viration in one manner (spacially), but the H-wave encourages another form of vibration - a quantum/temporal vibration. Because of this temporal relationship, a number of things are possible, when the H-wave is properly used - i.e with the formulae discovered by Tio Holtzman.SuspensorsBy creating a temporal slope at a certain distance, a force can be exerted constantly over a finite area. This is used in suspensors. They usually just push upwards. This is the most simple use of the Holtzman equationsShieldsThe same idea is used here - but the force is oscillating, to allow for 2-way interchange of slow particles so the user does not suffocate or decompress due to the fact that no air can diffuse into the shield area. However, there are a number of side-effects that require explanation. First is that the necessary 2-way force means that a slow projectile can penetrate a shield. Second is the laser-shield reaction. Lasers are effectively light and electricity combined. A shield is an electrically charged Holtzman Field. The shield's electricity at least is Alternating Current (it varies from +ve to -ve many times a second) - so when a laser hits a shield, at some point, a powerful circuit is made (the more so that the carriers have no mass). But the H-wave and Light are such that in this circuit, in which they are the conductors, will destabilise every participating atom. While the (enormous) electric current is stripping atoms of their electrons and replacing them at high speed, the nucleus is vibrating temporally and spacially - which usually causes the nucleal particles themselves to destabilise... and the subatomic reaction occurs.Folding SpaceThere are two parts to folding space: Firstly, to identify the unique spacial properties of the destination, and secondly, attuning the desired cargo to the same properties. The former is done by the navigator, using the spice-given prescience to find this out. The latter is acheived by means of a low frequency Holtzman wave, configured directly by the navigator. Note that any interference in this waves by holtzman fields will change the entire cargo's spacial properties, and they will be left in a totally different part of space.It is suspected that similar things can be acheived with light. One manifestation of this is the invention of solidoprojectors that restrict light to a certain shape that illuminates only itself. But the remaining formulae have yet to be discovered... "Of course, this is mostly fanfic. But presumably still on a par with the DE or the prequels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erjin999 Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 Hmmm, can't see why that would be dungeonised myself. Maybe its meant to be a secret ?Thanks Nema. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 One of the threads I posted it in was started by Nav; he was asking about the origins of the idea of folding space. But, yeah, it was started by Nav. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 that explains why it was blocked! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erjin999 Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 Because it was started by...him... ? Not all his threads were dungeonised. How bad could he have got in a thread discussing folding space ?! :O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Let's say it ended badly, therefor ended in the dungeon before more flaming could occur. (Although it is possible to just get rid of the last post.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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