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Although I am not convinced that is totally accurate, it does make some...disturbing points.

EDIT: Keep in mind, that section of the Pentagon was mostly empty at the time due to reconstruction.  What a coincidence.

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Okay it finally loaded for me, no thanks to my 56k's speed. 

Really, I like how it focusses on that small hole, compared to the larger ones directly to the left.  Also in that photo you'll notice the "intact windows" from a previous shot are now broken.  The map of the flight path is completely out of line with those I've seen on documentaries and the news media, I notice the plane didn't go over Ohio at all in the map on this, and spent more time over my state than it did, in a different flight path than it did.

Plus the wedge was near end of renovation, so?  Am I missing the "Oh my Bush missiled a billion dollar construction project" conspiracy? 

Also, nearly empty it said...more people died in the Pentagon on 9/11, than people died in the Oklhoma City Bombing.

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I apologize, I forgot part of my critique (and thanks for that link to the parts photos).  Missiles, like airplanes, would have a wake.  If it goes 530 MPH, it has a wake, simple enough physics.

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Well I just didn't get what the hell they were trying to get at by saying there were No plane peices found. ::) But yea your right about the physics though, concrete and steel means little when you think about the physics involved.

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I couldn't get the link to work now either, but it is more or less based on this web site...http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm

Now after looking over those pics carefully, and reading that lame ass

theory (IMO). Here is probably one of the best pics of the plane parts recovered. This is a very high res. blown up pic, it doesent get any clearer than this. http://www.defenselink.mil/photos/Sep2001/010914-F-8006R-002.jpg

The parts of the plane are near the left,which is btw something that site totally didnt show at all.

Also here's the source site for that pic and explains alot in detail. http://www.geocities.com/roboplanes/757.html

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Yeah... on a second thought:

By 8:54, the flight had been hijacked.They used knives and box-cutters to gain entrance to the cockpit. By 8:56, the flight had radically changed course, and the transponder was turned off. The FAA was aware at this point that there was an emergency aboard the plane. (By this time, American Airlines Flight 11 had already crashed into the World Trade Center, and United Airlines flight 175 was known to have been hijacked as well.)

Barbara K. Olson, who was on board this flight, had called her husband, United States Solicitor General Theodore Olson at the Justice Department twice to tell him about the hijacking and to report that the passengers and pilots were held in the back of the plane. After the call was cut off, Theodore Olson tried unsuccessfully to contact Attorney General John Ashcroft.

They'd have to cover this all up too. And even if this was true too, what happened to all the people that boarded on that plane? What happened to the plane itself?

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  The argument is weak. For starters, it conveniently ignores some of the most obvious, compelling evidence. For example:

Eyewitness testimony of bystanders who saw and/or heard American Airlines Flight 77 approach and collide with the Pentagon

The recovery of both black boxes belonging to the Boeing 757 from the Pentagon wreckage

The recovery and identification of the remains of ALL but one of the people known to be aboard Flight 77

Of course, the evasion of bedrock evidence is standard fare for conspiracy theorists. If pressed they would doubtless claim that all of the above must have been planted or manufactured, but they can't even prove such a claim plausible, let alone true beyond a reasonable doubt.

What are they trying to prove?  That the attacks of September 11 were perpetrated not by foreign terrorists, but by the U.S. government upon its own citizens

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And bystanders saying 'it sounded like a missile'...  How many of them have ever heard a real missile?  A plane hitting a building at high speeds could easily be mistaken for a missile by a civilian (or anyone, for that matter).

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  Right, cause i'm sure that somewhere between a 757 going at around 500 mph. and the time it actually hit, a "WOOSH" sound would clearly come into play.

I mean really, anyone with half a brain or less even can put up a web site armed with nothing more than pictures and asking you to point out the missing aircraft,account for all the missing bodies,surveylence videos,etc. etc. And all of these claims  btw have no type of proof whatsoever to even back them up claiming a "conspiracy". That itself is disturbing alone, but what is even more disturbing to me is anyone who would take in this info and really think to themselves after looking at all the available info to debunk it totally, "hmm there might be a conspiracy here".

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