Atocha Station: ETA, Al-Qua

[Wolf]

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/GoodMorningAmerica/Iraq_anniversary_poll_040314.html

Looking at Iraq, it seems things are better than they were before the war. It is possible that this war will achieve good things, that it will actually free a people and give them better lives. If that came at the cost of some political favors and an international law, it is up to decide which is worth more. Are the political machinations of our allies worth more than the humanity of an entire nation? Limited to just Iraq, the postwar world is better than a prewar one. I think that should be justification enough. Maybe it will not stay this way, but many indications say it will, and, furthermore, temporary freedom is better than indefinate slavery anyway.

[Caid Ivik]

Be aware that some (probably most) of the anti-war movement oppose it for diffeent reasons than just the thought of whether or not they are at risk! There are other issues involved, and only some of those who oppose war do so on this assumption you suggest, Caid.

Yes, some oppose it because it is their duty to do so. There weren't many warmongering popes last centuries...

[Filo]

you truly beleive the terrorist attack on spain is caused by Bush's actions? Idiots. Spain has been fighting terrorism internally for over 30 years, in those three decades over 800 have been killed and thousands injured. and Filo you are wrong once again, Spain has about 1,000 men in Iraq.

oh and he was also suggesting they were paying for Bush's involvement in Iraq but that is total Bull, as stated before Spain has had it's own war on terror for over 30 years.

I've been absent for 3 days and discover now your shady misunderstanding, Scytale. Everybody here except you has understood that I said that spanish PEOPLE didn't want to be involved in Bush' war, on the understanding that on the other hand, Aznar did. And he did it.

Al Queda said that all war-involved nations will pay sooner or later. Now the time has come. Spain is just one of the closest countries to an arabian territory. I'm afraid that England will get its turn.

Besides, now we know that Aznar lied by holding ETA theory, just to avoid reproaches of his people about Spain involvement in Bush' decision, he lied just waiting for elections. And he lost ; he pays the price of his lie.

And only his friend, go-getter Berlusconi, supports him still : he supports still (today) ETA theory!

[Edric O]

The election results surprised Zapatero and the PSOE more than anyone else. They never expected to win, and were astounded when the people voted for them in such great numbers.

Al-Qaeda aside, this is the first time in many decades when the people of a western democracy actually take the initiative into their own hands, and leave all political leaders (both the winners and the losers) awe-struck. And that is something to be very happy about. It shows that the Spanish, at least, are not apathetic sheep. It shows that democracy is still alive.

Al-Qaeda may have unwittingly given democracy a much needed breath of life.

[SurlyPIG]

As disagreeable as the idea of terrorism influincing the democracy is, I might have to concur.  I'm not sure how a 77% voter turnout ranks in Spain's standards, but it certainly seems like a lot to me.