Ok the Harkonnen really suck!!!

[Emosh73]

I have been playing the game for a month now and so far the Harkonnen really suck in my opinion.  

The Ordos without a doubt really kick butt!! They are my fav house right now!!! Follwed by the Atreides.

1) The Buzzsaw is reasonably ok and is good for spice fields and infantry. Could be a little faster though as compared to other units.

2) The flame tank is too slow!! Ordos Cobra or lastank and atreides mongoose or Minotaurs blow it up before it gets close enough to do damage.

3) The missile tank is slow and rearms very slow!! fast moving units will mow it down with ease!! Ordos units is the best for taking this out!!

4) The inkvine catapult is totally useless!!!! its useless against the fast moving targets!!! when it shoots its ink in the air I simply move my units out of the way!! and the damage it does is nothing compared to minotaurs and cobras!!

5) the assault tank is good but has to in 2's or 3's to be really effective.

6) of all the infantry I find the only useful one to be the harkonnen trooper!! the rest are useless in my opinion!! The other houses have overall better units!!

7) the devastator is really good at defense and very powerful although very very slow!! of course with an advance carryall and good tactics it can be very useful. But by the time I get to build it my base is almost taken over by the enemy!!

8) the ADP is very good for defense and is the best air defense unit in the game!! The gunships are good as well so air power is good and right up there with the other houses.

Did I mention that there is no way to repair harkonnen units!!! all the other houses can either self repair or have specialised repair units!!

Overall, Its very hard to play with harkonnen units and my base gets overwelmed with fast moving units!!

So this goes out to all you harkonnen experts out there.....

what units do you use as the backbone and in what combination? What units you find useless and just ignore building or just build the bare minimum?

How can I better utilize the buzzsaw? It just simply needs to run over any spice field to destroy it right?

any useful tips will be appreciated.....

ok thats my rant so please feel free to give me your opinions and advise....

cheers....

[nemafakei]

I also think that the Harkonnen are not preferable to the other two, but that's not to say the HK are bad. We are simply not good at using them. Shiroko is, as are a few others, but I do feel that they are lacking in flexibility.

[alphabeta4000]

YOur using the wrong units against the wrong things no wonder!!!!!!!! HK units self repair at second veterancy level. Inkvine is for infantry. Missile tanks are shoot and fall back units. Flame tank is for inf not tanks! Missile tanks are to be protected! YOu are a NOVICE at HK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( Don't say it sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Gobalopper]

One of the beta testers of Emperor thinks the Harkonnen are the best sides not worst. This is coming from someone who played the game for a long time so I think his opinion is a little more accurate. As with any House the more you understand them the stronger they are.

[riper]

Nifty speech but I have to agree though. I won more battles with Harkonnen then Artreides. How many times has this discussion been up? I've heard it all, Artreides suck Ordos suck Harkonnen suck. If you think they suck then play with another house and be happy when you face a player that has the sucking house. Should be easy to beat for you then! If not, guess what, you suck.

Riper

[nemafakei]

Having actually read the speech, I have to agree that you do imply that you use HK units incorrectly. The HK are for some people, AT for others, OR for others. Let's just leave it at that, please, because this 'which is better' discussion is otherwise futile.

[alphabeta4000]

that is right!

[bob_fox]

Yes, yes, yes, we've heard it all before. There have been lots of messages on this board complaining about the Harkonnen. House Harkonnen seems to be the least favourite house (there was a vote a few months ago), but some people - okay, very few - like them, so I think it's good that that house is there for those whose playing skills require it.

[nemafakei]

is it not that what you've just said is a very clever way of saying HK is a necessary house, as it caters for the tactics of the stupid, who can only understand the HK.

[dex]

use the devastator to defend spice fields especially enemy spice fields they will defend your fields and can destroy enemy carryalls do not use as attack vehicle only defense or support

[Virtugon]

But the harkonnen have good air defense with their AA missiles etc.  8)

[nemafakei]

Missile tanks - certainly good AA, but HK ADPs could be much better. I would far prefer AT Air Drones.

[alphabeta4000]

The problem with Adps is hp and speed. If speed was 4 and 3 times as much hp would be worth price.