def_tank

unfortunately, i dont think i have enough cash to get a new video card naytime soon :'(. guess it could be a while before i start playing emperor.

a while back, i posted here a little bit asking for help on my emperor cd, which for some reason wouldnt run. after a while i gave up, but i feel i cant just let the cd collect dust all day, so can u guys help a bit? here's what happens: i start the game, it begins to load... then it gives me a fatal error message saying 'unable to create 3d device'. Then it immediately gives me another a C++ Runtime Library message, saying 'runtime error! abnormal program termination'. i have a 450 athlon processor, an ancient voodoo 3 with updated drivers, updated direct x, was recently reformatted, etc. if there's any info u need that's missing, then tell me and i'll give it to you. thanks for any advice.

hey, i was just curious, does the monitor resolution possibly have anything to do with this problem?

hmmm... still stuck, nothing seems to work....

im sure that everything that u asked about the video card is alright, and no i have no spare video card to use instead. ill check my comp again to make sure everything should be up to speed. by the way, what's that thunder symbol next to my name for anyways?

what, a complete reinstall :O? i just had the comp reformatted last month. do i really have to scratch install again?

what if i already did, am i outta luck?

nope, i just got the game

well, when i start the game, the stupid Emperor screen shows up (not the main menu, though), then the screen goes black. After a few seconds, a fatal message comes up saying "unable to create 3d device". Then an error message comes right after that, and says in these words: runtime error! Program D:GamesEmperorGame.exe abnormal program termination then i end up back in desktop

i give up, i just cant figure out what's wrong. :'( crap why cant the damn game work?

nevermind, i managed to type it in, but it didnt work though. well, im gonna install the old drivers for my vid card soon (after the AP tests, actually). thanx for the help guys.

i did...

hey, the comp wont let me ad a -c to the target line on the shortcut properties. what do i do to get it to work?

thanx for the suggestions, ill try em out soon.

o yeah, one last thing. outta curiosity, how's getting an older driver gonna help? i dont think ur advice is useless by anymeans, just wondering, that's all.

part 4 ------------- Sound Devices ------------- Description: DirectSound (SB Live! Wave Out [C800]) Device ID: PCIVEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80401102&REV_05BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_00 Manufacturer ID: 2 Product ID: 104 Type: VXD Driver Name: EMU10K1.VXD Driver Version: 4.06.00.0711 (English) Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Certified: No Date and Size: 11/4/1999 01:08:00, 265285 bytes Other Files: emu10k1.vxd Driver Provider: Creative HW Accel Level: Full Registry: OK Sound Test Result: ----------- DirectMusic ----------- DLS Path: C:WINDOWSsystem32driversgm.dls Version: 1.00.16.0002 Ports: Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port MIDI Mapper, Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal Creative S/W Synth, Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal A: SB Live! MIDI Synth, Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal B: SB Live! MIDI Synth, Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal SB Live! MIDI Out [C800], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External SB Live! MIDI In [C800], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External Registry: OK Music Test Result: ------------- Input Devices ------------- Poll w/ Interrupt: Yes Registry: OK ------------- Input Drivers ------------- Registry Key: msjstick.drv<0002> Active: Yes DeviceID: VIRTUAL*CTL7010PCI&VEN_1102&DEV_7002&SUBSYS_00201102&REV_05&BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_01 Matching DevID: VBIDEC 16-bit Driver: msjstick.drv 32-bit Driver: ---------------------------- DirectPlay Service Providers ---------------------------- Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (4.08.00.0400) Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (4.08.00.0400) Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (4.08.00.0400) IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (4.08.00.0400) DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnwsock.dll (4.08.00.0400) DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnwsock.dll (4.08.00.0400) DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnmodem.dll (4.08.00.0400) DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnmodem.dll (4.08.00.0400) DirectPlay Test Result: ------------------------- DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps ------------------------- Age of Empires II (DX7) - Registry: OK, ExeFile: Empires2.ICD (0.14.14.0914) Kingdoms (DX7) - Registry: OK, ExeFile: Kingdoms.exe (1.00.00.0001) Shogo (DX7) - Registry: Error, ExeFile: () Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri (DX7) - Registry: OK, ExeFile: terran.exe () Age of Wonders (DX7) - Registry: OK, ExeFile: aow.exe () worms2 (DX7) - Registry: OK, ExeFile: worms2.exe () ------------------------------------ Inactive Display Entries in Registry ------------------------------------ None ---------------------------------- Inactive Sound Entries in Registry ---------------------------------- Card name: Voice Modem Serial Wave Device Driver: serwvdrv.drv Card name: Voice Modem Serial Wave Device Driver: serwvdrv.drv

part 3 ir50_qcx.dll: 5.00.64.0038 English Final Retail 3/22/1998 13:34:16 181760 bytes ivfsrc.ax: 5.03.02.0038 English Final Retail 3/22/1998 13:34:16 139264 bytes mswebdvd.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 375296 bytes ks.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 117056 bytes ksproxy.ax: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 116224 bytes ksuser.dll: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 4096 bytes stream.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 41920 bytes mspclock.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 4800 bytes mskssrv.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 6368 bytes swenum.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 3456 bytes mstee.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 4896 bytes bdaplgin.ax: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:21:38 13824 bytes bdasup.sys: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:30:16 4992 bytes msdvbnp.ax: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:21:16 50688 bytes psisdecd.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:21:26 366080 bytes psisrndr.ax: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:21:24 35840 bytes ipsink.ax: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:21:40 14336 bytes ndisip.sys: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:30:18 7424 bytes mpe.sys: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:30:18 13984 bytes streamip.sys: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:30:18 13664 bytes mpg2splt.ax: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 141312 bytes msvidctl.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:22:20 465920 bytes slip.sys: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:30:20 10016 bytes nabtsfec.sys: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:30:46 86016 bytes ccdecode.sys: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:30:46 15264 bytes vbisurf.ax: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:21:52 29696 bytes msyuv.dll: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:30:52 14336 bytes kstvtune.ax: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:21:50 52736 bytes ksxbar.ax: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:21:48 38400 bytes kswdmcap.ax: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:21:56 82432 bytes vfwwdm32.dll: 4.10.00.2222 English Final Retail 4/23/1999 22:22:00 73728 bytes wstdecod.dll: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:30:46 45568 bytes msdv.sys: 4.10.2226.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:26:06 55936 bytes --------------- Display Devices --------------- Card name: 3dfx Voodoo3 3500 TV Manufacturer: 3dfx Interactive, Inc. Chip type: DAC type: Device ID: EnumPCIVEN_121A&DEV_0005&SUBSYS_0060121A&REV_01000800 Display Memory: 15.0 MB Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit)(optimal refresh rate) Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200 Driver Name: 3dfx16v3.drv Driver Version: 4.11.01.0201 (English) DDI Version: 6 Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 7/21/1999 19:11:32, 379156 bytes Driver Certified: No WHQL Date Stamp: n/a VDD: *vdd Mini VDD: 3dfxv3.vxd Mini VDD Date: , 0 bytes Device Identifier: {D7B71CFA-4345-11CF-6371-6120A5C2C935} Vendor ID: 0x121A Device ID: 0x0005 SubSys ID: 0x0060121A Revision ID: 0x0001 Registry: OK DDraw Status: Enabled D3D Status: Enabled AGP Status: Not Available DDraw Test Result: D3D Test Result: AGP Test Result:

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------------------ System Information ------------------ Operating System: Microsoft Windows 98 (4.10, Build 2222) A Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: System Model: BIOS: Processor: AMD Athlon Processor, MMX, 3DNow, ~650MHz Memory: 128MB RAM Page File: 149MB used, 1770MB available DirectX Version: DirectX 8.0 (4.08.00.0400) DX Setup Parameters: Not found DxDiag Version: 4.08.00.0400 ------------ DxDiag Notes ------------ DirectX Files Tab: No problems found. Display Tab 1: The file 3dfx16v3.drv is uncertified, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs. You may be able to get a certified driver from the manufacturer of the hardware device. Sound Tab 1: The file EMU10K1.VXD is uncertified, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs. You may be able to get a certified driver from the manufacturer of the hardware device. Music Tab: No problems found. Input Tab: No input devices detected. No problems found. Network Tab: The registry information for the DirectPlay application 'Shogo' is missing or damaged. You should reinstall that application. ------------------ DirectX Components ------------------ ddraw.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 369664 bytes ddraw16.dll: 4.07.00.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 28496 bytes ddrawex.dll: 4.87.00.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 24336 bytes ddraw.vxd: 4.07.00.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 30469 bytes ddhelp.exe: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 41984 bytes dxapi.sys: 4.87.00.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 2416 bytes d3d8.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 1082368 bytes d3dref8.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 236544 bytes d3dim.dll: 4.07.00.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 625936 bytes d3dim700.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 872960 bytes d3dref.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 140800 bytes d3dramp.dll: 4.07.00.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 590096 bytes d3drm.dll: 4.06.02.0436 English Final Retail 1/8/1999 18:10:00 437008 bytes d3dxof.dll: 4.06.02.0436 English Final Retail 1/8/1999 18:10:00 107792 bytes d3dpmesh.dll: 4.06.02.0436 English Final Retail 1/8/1999 18:10:00 87312 bytes dplayx.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 245760 bytes dpmodemx.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 90112 bytes dpwsockx.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 98304 bytes dplaysvr.exe: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 45056 bytes dpnsvr.exe: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 86016 bytes dpnet.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 237568 bytes dpnlobby.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 98304 bytes dpnwsock.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 143360 bytes dpnaddr.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 90112 bytes dpnmodem.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 159744 bytes dpvoice.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 442368 bytes dpvsetup.exe: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 122880 bytes dpvvox.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 184320 bytes dpvacm.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 90112 bytes dinput.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 671744 bytes dinput8.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 704512 bytes dinput.vxd: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 10874 bytes dimap.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 102400 bytes diactfrm.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 425984 bytes vjoyd.vxd: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 33361 bytes joyhid.vxd: 4.88.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 13055 bytes joy.cpl: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 405504 bytes gcdef.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 528384 bytes gchand.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 6144 bytes pid.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/7/2000 15:16:46 40960 bytes gameenum.sys: 4.07.00.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 10512 bytes here u go, thanx for clearing that up. anyways, this is part 1

here's the output: Direct3D tests results: all tests were succesful DirectDraw results: all tests succesful DirectSound results: all test succesful DirectMusic: same thing actually, every test went fine. here's some more detailed info on my comp, mayb i shoulda added this in the beginning: AMD Athlon 633mhz w/ mmx and 3dnow 128 mb DirectX 8.0 Microsoft 98 second edition 3Dfx Voodoo 3 3500 TV w/ total appr. memory 15mb if there's anything else of relevance missing here, please tell me. thanx for the help so far guys.

i remember it said something about not being able to utilize the 3D system or something like that, and that there was an error with C++. I'm confused though, because my video card should be adequate for playing Emperor. Hope that info's enough

Someone help me! I just bought a copy of Emperor, and it installs fine. However, it wont load whenever i try to start the game. I have all the system requirements, and the cd's dont seem to be messed up, so can someone help me? :'(

get it on ebay if u can. if u deal ur cards right, you can get a copy from 10-15 bucks max (considering this game's not in big demand, it's not very hard to get a copy quick).

wow, to have ur own board... that's pretty neat.

cheats... lovely things. it takes the fun out of online play, but when all u have is the worthless comp to beat up on, trainers are the best. i remember one time when i dropped death hand after death hand and watch in glee as enemy infantry were squashed by all the bombs raining down on them.