Guest Kio Rautha Harkonnen Posted September 4, 2001 Posted September 4, 2001 Nyar.Congrats on a brilliant post. I must ask how your knowledge of computers is so largeNow for the problemA friend of mine says that the new 1.08 patch has problems, he downloaded it and the game is the same the weaponry the maps and next time he goes on WOL it asks him to install the patch. I have seen the install it looked perfect noting missing no errors (i know this because i installed the patch before on my comp and it works perfectly) but nothing when he runs the game. He has installed it 4 times now and nothing happens. Could you give us some advice/ a solution it would mean a lot to him.ThanxSupreme Commander Count Kio Rautha Harkonnen III
Guest tunapez Posted September 5, 2001 Posted September 5, 2001 Hi There, was just wondering if anyone can help. I cannot play campaign, but skirmish works MOST of the time; much like alley_cat and number6 earlier(my movies do run, tho).I have tried the graphix accelerator, adapter default and cdrom tweeks...no avail. Am currently downloading new "old" Voodoo3 drivers(1.04 and 1.05, jic) from gamers-ammo.com. I believe this helped the earlier gamers w/ my same vid card, but I don't know if they got the whql or Beta drivers. Here's my EAsy info if you're still doing the survey of DirectX files or other data, too. Any help would be appreciated, WW has already censured my past posting so: yes, I tried tech support and no, they didn't respond in over a month.Thanx, tuna----EASy System Summary-------------------------------------- Video Card : 3dfx Voodoo3 Video Driver : 3dfx16v3.drv Driver Version : 4.12.01.0666 Sound Card : CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device Sound Driver : cmaudio.vxd Driver Version : 4.06.00.1091 DirectX : DirectX 8 Operating System Windows 98 A 4.10.2222 ----EASy System Output--------------------------------------- Computer Name : TUNAPEZ BIOS Info Name : Award Version : Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG PNP : Plug and Play BIOS Manufacturer : (Standard system devices) CPU Info CPU Count : 1 CPU Type : 801 MHz AuthenticAMD Duron 6 3 1 RAM : 127 MB Total 75 MB Free Virtual RAM : 1920 MB Total 1896 MB Free Operating System : Windows 98 A 4.10.2222 Default Browser : Internet Explorer Version : 5.0.2614.3500 Temp Directory : C:WINDOWS.000TEMP Size : 16 MB ------------------------------------------------------------ ----Display Info-------------------------------------------- Number of Displays : 1 Current Mode (Primary) : 800x600 32 Refresh Rate (Primary) : Optimal refresh rate Primary display device Description : 3dfx Voodoo3 Manufacturer : 3dfx Video Memory : 16 MB Main Driver : 3dfx16v3.drv Version : 4.12.01.0666 Provider : 3dfx Supported Display Modes | 16 | 256 | 16 bits| 24 bits| 32 bits --------------------------------------------------- 640 x 480| * | * | * | | * 800 x 600| | * | * | | * 1024x 768| | * | * | | * 1152x 864| | | | | 1280x1024| | | | | 1600x1200| | | | | ------------------------------------------------------------ ----Sound, Video and Game Controllers----------------------- Description : CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device Manufacturer : C-MEDIA Main Driver : cmaudio.vxd Version : 4.06.00.1091 Provider : Description : C-Media PCI Audio Legacy Device Manufacturer : C-MEDIA Main Driver : cmaudio.vxd Version : 4.06.00.1091 Provider : Description : DOS Mode MPU-401 Emulator Manufacturer : C-MEDIA Main Driver : cmswmpu.vxd Version : 4.00.00.1019 Provider : Description : Gameport Joystick Manufacturer : Microsoft Main Driver : vjoyd.vxd Version : 4.08.00.0400 Provider : ------------------------------------------------------------ ----Direct X------------------------------------------------ DirectX Info Version : DirectX 8 DirectDraw Info Version : 4.08.00.0400 Certified : Not certified DirectSound Info Version : 4.08.00.0400 Certified : Not certified DirectPlay Info Version : 4.03.00.1096 DirectInput Info Version : 4.08.00.0400 ------------------------------------------------------------ ----Drive Information--------------------------------------- ----CDRom Info---------------------------------------------- Cache size : 1238 KB Access Pattern : Quad-speed or higher Drive Letter A Volume Name : Type : Floppy File System : Total Space : 0.00 KB Free Space : 0.00 KB Drive Letter C Volume Name : Type : Fixed File System : FAT32 Total Space : 5.60 GB Free Space : 3.62 GB Drive Letter D Volume Name : EMPEROR1 Type : CDRom File System : CDFS Total Space : 639.69 MB Free Space : 0.00 KB Sec/MB : 2.418087 Detected Speed : 16x ------------------------------------------------------------ ----Monitor Information------------------------------------- Primary monitor Description : Samsung SyncMaster 400b (CKA4217*) Manufacturer : Samsung Max. Resolution : 1024,768 ------------------------------------------------------------ ----Network Information------------------------------------- Description : Dial-Up Adapter Manufacturer : Microsoft Driver : pppmac.vxd Provider : Microsoft Bound Protocols TCP/IP IP Address: Obtained from provider IP Mask: Obtained from provider ------------------------------------------------------------ ----Input Device Information-------------------------------- Mouse Information Description : PS/2 Compatible Mouse Port Type : PS2 Keyboard Information Description : IBM enhanced (101- or 102-key) ------------------------------------------------------------ ----Modem Information--------------------------------------- Description : Driver : Provider : ------------------------------------------------------------ ----Glide/OpenGL Information-------------------------------- Glide Info Glide2 Version : Glide3 Version : OpenGL Info Version : 4.0 ------------------------------------------------------------ ----Task List----------------------------------------------- msgsrv32.exe mprexe.exe mmtask.tsk ddhelp.exe Explorer cmmpu.exe Systray wmiexe.exe emperor battle for dune_ez.exe ------------------------------------------------------------ ----Autoexec.bat-------------------------------------------- *empty* ------------------------------------------------------------ ----Config.sys---------------------------------------------- *empty* ------------------------------------------------------------ X_CASE_START X_CASE_DESCRIPTION: Mid-way through second level, in all three houses, game freezes and keyboard/mouse lock. Music continues to play. Am able to restart computer using ctrl+alt+del, but nothing else works(alt+tab, ctrl+esc, etc). Seems to happen whenever camera is focused away from base(either on enemy territory or open sand). X_CONTACT_FIRST_NAME: X_CONTACT_LAST_NAME: X_GAME: Emperor: Battle for Dune X_SERIAL_KEY: 033186-206228-585353-1888 X_OPERATING_SYSTEM: Windows 98 A , Version 4.10, Build 2222 X_PROCESSOR: Duron X_SPEED: 801 MHz X_MMX: No X_RAM: 127 MB X_MANUFACTURER: X_PRODUCT_ID: X_VIDEO_CARD: 3dfx Voodoo3 X_DISPLAY_DRIVER: 4.12.01.0666 X_DISPLAY_DIRECTX: Not Certified, Hardware Support X_DISPLAY_MEMORY: 3 MB X_AUDIO_CERTIFIED: Not Certified X_AUDIO_DRIVERS: cmaudio.vxd 4.06.00.1091 X_MODEM: X_V_MANUFACTURER: 3dfx X_A_MANUFACTURER: C-MEDIA X_CASE_END
Guest tunapez Posted September 5, 2001 Posted September 5, 2001 Oh yeah, I have tried the graphix options in game and on display settings turning them all to lowest settings and it still locks up. Music continues to run til I press ctrl+alt+del 1 time and it begins to skip and my keyboard/system totally freezes.I also have not been able to get more than 4 seconds into any Red Alert(1) games w/o same results. Tiberian and Dune 2K work flawlessly on all games, hmmmm.Thx again,tuna
Guest shadow461 Posted September 5, 2001 Posted September 5, 2001 I noticed a couplr of you mentioned memory, and having or getting over 500MB of RAM.Some Windows OSes do not manage this much memory properly. Windows 2K does, and I think ME can handle 256 MB effectively while 98 can only handle 128MB effectively. At 512MB, the memory manager does not hadle the memory well enough to prevent conflicts...less more run programs effectively.Here's an excerpt from my PC entry on overclockers.com australia:OS: Windows 98 1st Edition Version: 4.10.1998 DirectX Version: 8.01 Other Info: I've tweaked the memory settings so that Windows now manages over 500MB of my RAM. The mods are in the system.ini file. Under the 386Enh folder, I have added the line IRQ11=16384. My video and ethernet cards use IRQ11. This adds a 16MB buffer to the IRQ, which, in turn, enhances the performance of whatever is on that IRQ. I've also meddled with the vcache folder. I added the lines Chunksize=1024 DirectoryCache=128 Namecache=3072 maxfilecache=204800 minfilecache=40960 For more info on these tweaks, please visit the forums at www.voodoosource.net. IRQ 11 is the IRQ for my video card.If you have more than 128 MB ram with Win 98 or more than 256 with WinME, then try the following settings:Chunksize=1024DirectoryCache=128NameCache=2048minfilesize= (number of MB for minimum swapfile x 1024)maxfilesize= (numebr of MB for maximum sawpfile x 1024)It is recommended that you set the minimum swapfile to 40 MB and the maximum swapfile to 90 MBIn the 386Enh forlder, type the following line: IRQxx=4096 where xx is the IRQ for your video card. To find this IRQ, right click "My Computer", slecet properties, seect display adapters, then double click your primary display card and click the resources tab. Scroll down in the box until you find a line that says Interrupt or IRQ and has a number. That number is the IRQ you need to put where xx is in that line in the system.ini.Many thanks to RoundMan44 of www.voodoosource.net for posting these tweaks over there on their forums.
Guest jeromeku Posted September 6, 2001 Posted September 6, 2001 wow... this thread is huge!!!!! Nice to see that so many ppl have benefited from it. I think there is a better tech support knowledge base in this thread than there is in the Westwood computers :).Hats off to Nyar & everyone else.--jk
Nyarlathotep Posted September 6, 2001 Author Posted September 6, 2001 tunapez, when you've installed the 1.04 drivers, place the option -c and/or =w behind the shortcut. That solved the problems for Alley_cat.Let me know how it goes !Nyar...PS. Sorry for the late reply but have been busy the last couple of days :)
Nyarlathotep Posted September 6, 2001 Author Posted September 6, 2001 shadow461, thanks for sharing that info with us. Although, I have to admit that I'm running Windows ME, and have more then 500 ram. This hasn't caused any probs (yet 8) ). Nyar...
Nyarlathotep Posted September 7, 2001 Author Posted September 7, 2001 spinoza, did you try the option -c behind the shortcut ?Nyar...
Nyarlathotep Posted September 7, 2001 Author Posted September 7, 2001 tunapez, does it work now for you ?Nyar...
Nyarlathotep Posted September 8, 2001 Author Posted September 8, 2001 antonym, I haven't got your save game yet, again, feel free to e-mail it to me (respect_30@hotmail.com)..Nyar...
Guest tunapez Posted September 8, 2001 Posted September 8, 2001 Hey Nyar, yes it did after a little tweaking, thanx for all the time you've invested here. The puter I use online doesn't automatically update windows so I had a hard time locating this thread. My performance is low, but I have managed to get thru 13 levels of Ordos without a crash. Sometimes I have to exit the program and restart due to the "no highlight building/can't pan screen while units are selected", but a simple exit and re-run fixes that. Thanx again for the help, hope Westwood's taking care of you for all the hard work.
Nyarlathotep Posted September 9, 2001 Author Posted September 9, 2001 No problem, happy gaming and enjoy :)Nyar...
Nyarlathotep Posted September 9, 2001 Author Posted September 9, 2001 Are there any updates from the others with known probs (Nine12 for example) ?For all new readers, there's a summary on page 14 8)Nyar...
Nyarlathotep Posted September 9, 2001 Author Posted September 9, 2001 So all is solved and everyone is enjoying the game ? :DNyar...
Guest agent374 Posted September 10, 2001 Posted September 10, 2001 Hello all! First, I'd like to thank everyone here for offering tips and fixes for all of us suffering from problems with emperor, you guys keep up the good work! Now, I can't tell you how excited I am about finally fixing my problem permanently (at least, so far, knock on wood)! FYI, I used to have a problem in Emperor when attempting to navigate menus and always being dropped to the desktop. I can play campaigns missions fine, just navigating menus (especially when selecting a territory to attack) crashed me to desktop. Well, no more. As some of you may already know, the new Nvidia Detonator 4 v21.81 drivers have just been released today and I've been anticipating them not only for the performance improvements (which are little at best, but motion appears smoother even though fps isn't much higher) but for the chance they may fix my Emperor problem. Well, they have, I've been sitting here, staring at the menu screen for choosing a territory to attack for the last hour and no crash. I've also played a 5-hour campaign as well (playing as hark on emperor worm mission, on normal, yeah, I suck :)) with no lockups/crashes. So, if some of you geforce owners who have been having some crashes to the desktop or freezes in game, give the new detonators a shot. Who knows...just thought I'd give everyone a heads up!My system specs:Athlon tbird 1.2ghz@9x133fsb (factory unlocked)abit kt7e w/bios 3r (cpu at 1.725v, i/o at 3.3v)2x256mb dimms of generic pc133 cas3ibm 60gig udma100 hddibm 20gig udma66 hddtoshiba 12x dvd udma33plextor 8x4x32x cdrw pio mode 4elsa gladiac geforce2 gts 32mb (not overclocked)netgear 10/100 nicati tv wondersound blaster 32 pnp (isa)antec ks188 full tower caseenermax 431 watt psuWindows 98 OEM (burrowed from old computer)Nvidia Detonator 4 v21.81 drivers (godsend)Directx 8.0aVia 4in1 v4.32
Nyarlathotep Posted September 10, 2001 Author Posted September 10, 2001 agent374, thanks for taking the time and effort to post that, it's very much appreciated !!Enjoy the game in all it's glory :DNyar...
Guest Kio Rautha Harkonnen Posted September 10, 2001 Posted September 10, 2001 i reply to your posy Nyar we found the problem!!!When the patch was installed on his pc because his programmes are modified and it is a home built pc he needed to upload the patch onto the pc. The patch was in a storage folder under his WW internet file and had to be copied to emperor. LOL so if you need the answer for the future there you are.
Nyarlathotep Posted September 10, 2001 Author Posted September 10, 2001 Thanks very much for taking the effort to reply Kio Rautha !!Nyar...
Guest Kio Rautha Harkonnen Posted September 10, 2001 Posted September 10, 2001 we worked it out two hours ago its been many a long night and lots of coffee pots. Ive been moor dpressed than a holland football fan...oops.
Nyarlathotep Posted September 10, 2001 Author Posted September 10, 2001 Well, they deserve it. I'm a big soccer fan, but these guy's need to realize that they need to work to win a match and that theire "status" is not getting them the win ::)Nyar...
Guest Omega6_Fox Posted September 12, 2001 Posted September 12, 2001 I play a skrimish and I'll get about 10mins into the game and my computer just restarts. Also when im in the multiplayer menus or in multiplayer chats it will also just restart or crash my computer.heres my specs plz help thnx----EASy System Summary-------------------------------------- Video Card : Maxi Gamer Cougar Video Driver : nvdisp.drv Driver Version : 4.13.01.1410 Sound Card : Windows Sound System (WSS) Device Sound Driver : CM8330.vxd Driver Version : 4.10.00.0160 DirectX : DirectX 8 Operating System Windows 98 4.10.1998----EASy System Output--------------------------------------- Computer Name : B9V2O6BIOS Info Name : American Megatrends Version : DMI Ver-2.0, Aug 24, 1995 PNP : Plug and Play BIOS Manufacturer : (Standard system devices)CPU Info CPU Count : 1 CPU Type : 501 MHz GenuineIntel Pentium III 6 7 2 RAM : 159 MB Total 1 MB Free Virtual RAM : 1888 MB Total 1784 MB Free Operating System : Windows 98 4.10.1998 Default Browser : Internet Explorer Version : 6.0.2479.6 Temp Directory : C:WINDOWSTEMP Size : 173 MB----------------------------------------------------------------Display Info-------------------------------------------- Number of Displays : 2 Current Mode (Primary) : 1024x768 16 Refresh Rate (Primary) : Adapter DefaultPrimary display device Description : Maxi Gamer Cougar Manufacturer : Hercules Technologies Video Memory : 1 MB Main Driver : nvdisp.drv Version : 4.13.01.1410 Provider : Hercules TechnologiesSecondary display device Description : Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA) Manufacturer : (Standard display types) Video Memory : 32 MB Main Driver : vga.drv Version : 4.10.00.1998 Provider : MicrosoftSupported Display Modes | 16 | 256 | 16 bits| 24 bits| 32 bits --------------------------------------------------- 640 x 480| * | * | * | | * 800 x 600| | * | * | | * 1024x 768| | * | * | | * 1152x 864| | * | * | | * 1280x1024| | * | * | | * 1600x1200| | | | | ----------------------------------------------------------------Sound, Video and Game Controllers----------------------- Description : Windows Sound System (WSS) Device Manufacturer : C-Media Inc. Main Driver : CM8330.vxd Version : 4.10.00.0160 Provider : C-Media Inc. Description : External Midi (Mpu401) Device Manufacturer : C-Media Inc. Main Driver : cmmpu401.vxd Version : 4.00.960.0000 Provider : C-Media Inc. Description : Joystick Device Manufacturer : C-Media Inc. Main Driver : vjoyd.vxd Version : 4.08.00.0400 Provider : C-Media Inc. Description : SB16 Audio Device Manufacturer : C-Media Inc. Main Driver : cm8330sb.vxd Version : 4.10.00.0160 Provider : C-Media Inc. Description : Wave Device for Voice Modem Manufacturer : Lucent Main Driver : serwave.vxd Version : 4.10.00.1998 Provider : AZT Description : DOS Mode MPU-401 Emulator Manufacturer : C-Media Inc. Main Driver : Version : Provider : C-Media Inc. Description : C-Media SoftMidi Driver Manufacturer : C-Media Inc. Main Driver : cmmpu401.vxd Version : 4.00.960.0000 Provider : C-Media Inc.----------------------------------------------------------------Direct X------------------------------------------------DirectX Info Version : DirectX 8DirectDraw Info Version : 4.08.00.0400 Certified : Not certifiedDirectSound Info Version : 4.08.00.0400 Certified : Not certifiedDirectPlay Info Version : 4.03.00.1096DirectInput Info Version : 4.08.00.0400----------------------------------------------------------------Drive Information-------------------------------------------CDRom Info---------------------------------------------- Cache size : 1238 KB Access Pattern : Quad-speed or higherDrive Letter A Volume Name : Type : Floppy File System : Total Space : 0.00 KB Free Space : 0.00 KBDrive Letter C Volume Name : Type : Fixed File System : FAT32 Total Space : 5.99 GB Free Space : 4.23 GBDrive Letter D Volume Name : Type : Fixed File System : FAT32 Total Space : 1.19 GB Free Space : 18.96 MBDrive Letter E Volume Name : Type : CDRom File System : Total Space : 0.00 KB Free Space : 0.00 KB Sec/MB : Test not performed Detected Speed : Test not performed----------------------------------------------------------------Monitor Information-------------------------------------Primary monitor Description : Plug and Play Monitor Manufacturer : (Standard monitor types) Max. Resolution : 1600x1200----------------------------------------------------------------Network Information------------------------------------- Description : Dial-Up Adapter Manufacturer : Microsoft Driver : pppmac.vxd Provider : Microsoft Bound Protocols TCP/IP IP Address: Obtained from provider IP Mask: Obtained from provider Description : Dial-Up Adapter #2 (VPN Support) Manufacturer : Microsoft Driver : pppmac.vxd Provider : Microsoft Bound Protocols TCP/IP IP Address: Obtained from provider IP Mask: Obtained from provider Description : Microsoft Virtual Private Networking Adapter Manufacturer : Microsoft Driver : netpptp.sys Provider : Microsoft Bound Protocols NDISWAN----------------------------------------------------------------Input Device Information--------------------------------Mouse Information Description : PS/2 Compatible Mouse Port Type : PS2Keyboard Information Description : IBM enhanced (101- or 102-key)----------------------------------------------------------------Modem Information--------------------------------------- Description : MDP7800-U Modem Driver : MDP7800-U Modem Provider : 12-10-1998----------------------------------------------------------------Glide/OpenGL Information--------------------------------Glide Info Glide2 Version : Glide3 Version : OpenGL Info Version : 4.0----------------------------------------------------------------Task List-----------------------------------------------msgsrv32.exemprexe.exemmtask.tskExplorercmmpu.exetaskmon.exeSystraywinampa.exenavapw32.exefindfast.exeddhelp.exespool32.exeicq.exernaapp.exetapisrv.exeagsatellite.exewinamp.exeez.exe----------------------------------------------------------------Autoexec.bat------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Config.sys----------------------------------------------DEVICE=C:DOSHIMEM.SYS------------------------------------------------------------X_CASE_STARTX_CASE_DESCRIPTION: X_CONTACT_FIRST_NAME: X_CONTACT_LAST_NAME: X_GAME: X_SERIAL_KEY: X_OPERATING_SYSTEM: Windows 98 , Version 4.10, Build 1998X_PROCESSOR: Pentium IIIX_SPEED: 501 MHzX_MMX: YesX_RAM: 159 MBX_MANUFACTURER: X_PRODUCT_ID: X_VIDEO_CARD: Maxi Gamer CougarX_DISPLAY_DRIVER: 4.13.01.1410X_DISPLAY_DIRECTX: Not Certified, No Hardware SupportX_DISPLAY_MEMORY: 5 MBX_AUDIO_CERTIFIED: Not CertifiedX_AUDIO_DRIVERS: CM8330.vxd 4.10.00.0160X_MODEM: MDP7800-U ModemX_V_MANUFACTURER: Hercules TechnologiesX_A_MANUFACTURER: C-Media Inc.X_CASE_END
Nyarlathotep Posted September 13, 2001 Author Posted September 13, 2001 Omega6_Fox, you're having two display adapters. Try to use the option -altvid behind the shortcut. As I do not know what you've done so far, try also contacting WW tech support. Another thing, a summary of suggestions can be found on page 14. Please look at them and try them. Let us know if anything changes (or not).Nyar...
Nyarlathotep Posted September 15, 2001 Author Posted September 15, 2001 Try re-installing directx 8. You also might need to re-install the drivers for the videocard that's currently in your system.Nyar...
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