What have you said? Free market do you prefer? You nazist!

[Edric O]

The only difference between "modern industrial" capitalism and other possible types of capitalism is the level of technology. And yes, this is the kind of capitalism that you, me, Karl Marx and everyone else are talking about when they say "capitalism", because it is the most technologically advanced kind.

It doesn't matter how the first wave of privatization is done, Caid. By its very nature, capital has the tendency to concentrate in few hands. It doesn't matter if you spread it out evenly in the beginning. You'll still end up with a rich oligarchy in the end. This is what happened all over Eastern Europe.

Marx did not create socialism, of course. He created marxism, which forms the scientific base for socialism and communism. In other words, Marx showed the exact reasons why capitalism is unjust (because it exploits the workers), he showed the reasons why socialism is better (because it eliminates exploitation) and explained how socialism and communism should work.

But no one has a copyright on "socialism". You can call yourself "socialist", no matter how right-wing, anti-marxist and anti-communist you are. That's what Hitler did.

You can't judge Hitler and Stalin by what they said. You have to judge them by what they did.

American soldiers generally don't call themselves "partisans", you know... And they're usually not armed with Italian weapons.

LOL, Caid, you're not just making Mussolini roll in his grave, you're making him do triple sommersaults! I mean, the guy HATED socialists and all left-wingers more than anything else, he had them killed by the thousands, he practically shouted "I hate socialists and communists!!!" at the top of his lungs, and that's STILL not enough for you! Geez, what does a man have to do to convince you that he's not a socialist?

I showed you plenty of clear evidence that Mussolini was among the most anti-socialist men that have ever walked the Earth, but you just keep blabbing on and on like a broken record.

Even George Bush is more of a "socialist" than Mussolini was...

And I suggest that you learn more about marxism before making a fool of yourself by saying ridiculous things about it.

Here's something that you might find useful:

Fascism: What it is and how to fight it

by Leon Trotsky

[Caid Ivik]

Well, feudal society is else than industrial. Rather other view on authorities, you know. If we define capitalism as a system after feudalism, then it can be used only for industrial era, that's about last 200-300 years.

That's true, some people are richer, but usually it is under too much pressure of others to seize the power. Oligarchy can't reach power by money, only by some unclean ways. Trough mafiostic practice, arranging a "people's revolution" or corruption. Lawful state wouldn't agree with that.

Well, italian army was using mostly czechoslovak guns, armament of those diversists I don't know. That BBC report wasn't talking about it, anyway. Mussolini himself was a leader of many proletar unrests in Forli, altough he wasn't marxist, to be sure. Fascism was his own view on socialism: we must stand united together, something will ensure it.

And Levi "Trockij" Bronstein had own intentions against the black block...