yea im one of the real oldies......although i just joined this site i few days ago. Well i was in 3rd way bak when the game was released i use to play with munger, hellsrift, and bretek all the time.....i know u were in the clan with a name like sabukar(i think) but i dont remember if i ever really met u.....im gonna be coming bak to emperor soon if you still play.