I have been thinking about this game lately and was hoping that some other geeks would be keeping it on life support somewhere. Well talk about keeping it alive, WOW! Got a full download, with patches and even an editor! mmmm mmmmm hallelujah... mmm hehehe Muad'Dib and I thank you! :) "Every civilization must contend with an unconscious force which can block, betray or countermand almost any conscious intention of the collectivity." - Tleilaxu Theorem