Noam

The so-called Road Map to Peace is Bush's plan for peace in the ME, that had in it stopping the settlements and a cease-fire for both of the sides, a few months for Abu Mazen to abolish the Hamas, the Jihad etcetera as a first step. Since Arafat didn't let Abu Mazen use the Palestinian armed forces, he couldn't do it and the first step of the Road Map was never taken. Now let me ask you, lowzeewee - have you ever heard of the Road Map? You don't seem to know what you are talking about. And I never understand your points, what's between the road map and the Palestinian education? Wolfwiz - The Iraqi war had to be. Either now with 94 American soldiers killed in the entire war, or in 5 years, or 10 or 20 or 50 years, when they WILL attack the western world. Don't forget that we're dealing here with fundamentalists. Now the US must establish a democratic stable regime, and when that is done, the war in Iraq is officially a success.

If all that matters is will of the both sides for peace, you have already half of the work done. Despite what is written in israel-sucks.com, the fraction of the Israelis who are convinced that no peace could ever be made with arabs is really small, less than 10%. On the other hand, you got the Palestinians who even after all the attempts made to make peace, still don't teach that Israel exists in their Geography lessons, and they have ceremonies in favour of their martyrs ('Shaheed'), who died while carrying out a suicide bombing. It all starts from up, specifically Arafat. No peace can be made with Yasser Arafat, ever. They said Israel would not be willing to send international troops to its area before, but now there are international troops in the northern border with Lebanon. Israel will not be willing, but might accept troops, since no other solution can be found... Besides, I wasn't speaking of an international peace-keeping force, just mediating in the negotiation, like the US does. Gotta run, Noam

Well, I wouldn't expect much from someone whose Prime Minister said that the jews must be stopped before they succeed in their plan to control the whole world. Nothing personal, you see. More concrete - Wolfwiz, I couldn't agree with you more. The violence must be stopped. Everyone agrees on that, yet nobody suggests a way of doing it. What's an ideology worth, if it is unreachable or very hard to reach? In my opinion, at least, a solution cannot come from inside the Palestinian Authority. The UN and the EU should interfere, if they want to reach somewhere, and do it with close inspection of what is done with their money. While the Palestinian people is extremely poor, Arafat's property is approximately 800 Million Dollars, Which he just took away from the EU's humanitarian assistance.

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By the way, look at that: http://uploaded.fresh.co.il/3fab534f48f82996.jpg ALERT - What happened to his head may be difficult to view. Not for pregnant women / people with high blood pressure. You can read what the Palestinian propaganda people made out of it, while if you look closely at the fourth picture you can notice the blood very easily. What really happened, as it was on the news and on any possible site/magazine/newspaper except for we-love-palestine.com, is that the soldiers took him, identified him, noticed the explosive belt under his clothes, immediately shot his head and then undressed him to remove the explosive belt. You don't have to be a hawk in order to notice that there is a red stain where his head was supposed to be. Pictures may be deceiving... Especially when taken by someone who takes sides.

Excuse me, but diplomacy with WHOM exactly?! We tried negotiating with Abu Mazen's former Palestinian government, and did have a significant progress with the negotiation. Arafat saw this, and made his movement in any direction extremely difficult. Abu Mazen has made a speech in front of the Palestinian parliament blaming Arafat for preventing him from moving on in the way to peace. He quit, and Arafat appoint a new PM. Diplomacy is a really nice word.

Point?

Supreme guy: You are questioning the reliability of my sources, while I question yours. It goes like this - I'm smarter, older, meaner and I FUCKING LIVE INSIDE ALL OF THIS. My sources are the news, the paper, what I see myself. Are you trying to tell me that the bus that exploded right under my house was blown up by innocent people? You don't know anything, and but anything I mean ANYTHING about the situation. I won't even bother retorting this time. Just a waste of time... Sneakgab: I don't care about the ancient history, as I see it what was thousands of years ago shouldn't matter when discussing present. I was just answering the guy who said that there were no jews in Israel before the establishment of the Zionism. Last - The Israeli media is not biased. We have all the information available about our PM's criminal investigation, probably much more than you know actually, we know everything that goes. We're not like the "The American will never get close to Baghdad" guys, the media here is professional. I don't see a reason to doubt it. PS: The Matrix: Revolution is a disappointing movie. Watch only if you can't live without knowing what happens in the end.

Kinda simple. There's a wall in Gaza right now. For the last 2 years or so, there were... 2 terror attacks that originated from gaza strip. 2. It's not that they're not trying, they just can't get past the wall. Hundreds of terror attacks originated from the west bank, so now we're just building a wall between the west bank and Israel as we did in Gaza.

Israel isn't. It's all politics, the settlers have a powerful lobby in the parliament and they demanded that this and that settlement will be behind the wall they're building. I'm not saying that everything Israel does is ultimately good, I disagree with some of the things that we are doing. But who agrees with everything his govenment decides?

It most definitely is correct to destroy a terrorist's or a terrorist's family's house, yes. It is not correct to destroy houses in order to make room to settlers. I'm against the settlements no less, and even more, than you do.

There had been a hebrew state (2 hebrew states, actually) in here from around 5,000 years ago till the Romans banished them. They transferred the jews from the region of Israel and Judea to somewhere in the Roman empire, Don't know exactly where to. That was around 2,000 years ago. A few centuries forward, and we have the Ottomans taking over the area, calling it Palestine. At that time there were severa tens of thousands of jews in here, and much more of that arabs. Bla bla bla, Zionism, Jews started immigrating to Israel. The arabs in here didn't exactly like it, but jews kept coming... World War One. The Ottoman empire falls, the British conquer the place. They didn't permit jews to immigrate to Palestine, because they had interests in good connections with the arabs, but we just kept coming. World War Two. The Nazis killed 6 Million jews. 1943 - The war ends. 29.10.1947 - Seeing the holocaust, the UN had not much choice. A declaration that the land will be divided into 2 countries, called Israel and Palestine. Palestine is to govern the mountain area, the Galil and the West Bank of the river Jordan. Israel is to control the coastal plane, which was mostly marshes at that time, and the Negev, which is pretty much of a desert. Jerusalem - international city. The Israeli Independence War began, between the jewish residents and the arab residents in Israel. 14.5.1948 - Israel declares itself a state. Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan, Iraq and Iran join the war. Somehow we survive this. 1949 - Truce. The truce borders are today known as the 'green line' or '1967 border'. During the war, many of the arab residents tried to flee to the surrounding arab countries, that didn't agree to accept them. They settled down in refugee camps. Today they are called Palestinians. Those who didn't run away are today Israeli full-right citizens of the state of Israel, by the way.

We don't demand the land from anyone. The UN decided to gave Israel around a third of the land of Israel, we agreed and declared us a state, they started a war, we won (because we control the world. ask the malaysian PM), they lost, some of them fled, and those who tried to flee to other countries and were rejected settled in refugee camps and are today called Palestinians. Learn the situation before talking about it.

I humbly suggest that you read what I wrote above. I really don't have too much free time to spend on writing again what I have already written.

True. We weren't attacking Syria, if we really wanted to do that it wouldn't be an isolated camp destroyed but more like the Syrian government complex destroyed. Since we (in the 10000th time) DO NOT want a war, we didn't. We preferred to alert Assad that he is playing with fire, and in return we got more threats, actually.