Hi again, huh that's very far back. There is an alternative: Use the omega drivers: http://www.omegadrivers.net/ati/win2k_xp.php you can stick with the newest version and still play dune 2000, it works on my machine. I don't know how stable those driver are, they are stable now on my machine. I remember I tried them about 8 months ago and it always crashed my machine ... cheers LastBoyScout