Andrew Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 Acriku-You have good points about it not being a chemical weapon, although the fact that the USA did not sign an international treaty barring it from using it against civilians is very questionable. By questionable I mean just because they didn't sign a treaty means they should indiscriminately go attacking areas with civilians and enemy combatants.From IMDBTV Documentary Forces Pentagon To Retract StatementFaced with footage from an Italian documentary showing white phosphorus shells being dropped on Fallujah during last year's offensive and interviews with two American soldiers who had witnessed the results of the chemical's use, the Defense Department on Tuesday retracted an earlier statement saying that it had only been used for illumination. "It was used as an incendiary weapon against enemy combatants," spokesman Lt. Col. Barry Venable told the BBC, "though not against civilians." However, the Italian documentary, produced by the state-owned RAI, showed the burned bodies of civilians, including women and children. In the interview, Venable denied that white phosphorus missiles can be considered a chemical weapon. He called it a "conventional munition" and noted that the U.S. was not a signatory to an international treaty barring its use against civilians. He said that the Pentagon's earlier statement that it was used only for illumination was based on "poor information." The Italian documentary received little press coverage in the U.S., where no nightly network newscast even mentioned it.I like how they blame not revealing it on "poor information". If the government does not know that they are using WP against enemy combatants and civilians living in the same area, that is just sad how they blame everything on poor information (WMD in iraq etc). What do they know? Nothing?It's sad to see the media completely ignore this.Hmm, using a google search, it seems to be catching on, the # of news articles has increased a lot today about it. about 70 articles relating to US use of it in the past 9 hours. Maybe it will pick up mainstream tomorrow.In case no american media on tv is reporting it go tohttp://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/11/16/phosphorus-fallujah051116.htmland watch video at top right.I did a search of CNN.com, and no mention of phosporus... although abc had a mention if I use the search function.Fox news has a little up or down thing less than a paragraph on the subject, no real article.While looking at nbc news, I foundMassive bid-rigging scam alleged in Iraq:U.S. says businessman bribed coalition officials to land rebuilding contracts Not that it is a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 Well, like what was said before, if the substance was used as an illuminatory substance then it isn't a chemical weapon. But if they used the incendiary effect for its primary use, then the US is in a very deep hole. Lt Col Venable, a spokesman of the Pentagon, said WP was used to flush out the enemy of their holes using the incendiary effect and the smoke effect. I think this is using it as a chemical weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 CIA agents reveal interrogation tacticsI can see Bush now... "We do not torture... torture is when there are visible bruises or physical abuse... it's not torture if it's done in other countries." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dude_Doc Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 The CIA captured two of our citizens and tortured them in Egypt. So I wonder how many times this have happened in other countries... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 They do it to Canadians as well...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maher_Arar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Prisoners at an Iraqi detention centre opened up to journalists have told the BBC of widespread abuse.Blair talked Bush out of launching an air strike against Al-Jazeera's headquarters in Qatar -- a U.S. ally -- during an April 16, 2004 meeting at the White House.The Arabic-language network has been a frequent target of U.S. criticism, and its facilities in Afghanistan and Iraq have been hit by U.S. bombs.If true, the Mirror report "would cast serious doubts" on U.S. statements that those strikes were accidental, the network said.EDIT:How U.S. Fell Under the Spell of 'Curveball'Long article about the informant who was lying, but the Bush administration decided to believe him anyway just so they could go to war with Iraq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 U.S. Military Covertly Pays to Run Stories in Iraqi PressAs part of an information offensive in Iraq, the U.S. military is secretly paying Iraqi newspapers to publish stories written by American troops in an effort to burnish the image of the U.S. mission in Iraq.The articles, written by U.S. military "information operations" troops, are translated into Arabic and placed in Baghdad newspapers with the help of a defense contractor, according to U.S. military officials and documents obtained by the Los Angeles Times.Awesome. Bush was correct when he said that propaganda needs to be repeated over and over to get it to sink in.But not like they havn't been putting out propaganda like when they staged the downfall of Saddam's statue.See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.- Bush Reality Check on Iraq- Approximately 100 Attacks Per Day; All-Time High.- One of the Deadliest Attacks In Iraq Occurred Less Ten Days Ago.- Unemployment Rates At 40 Percent.- Iraq Oil Production Is Below Pre-War Levels.- Water, Electricity, Health Networks Are Below Prewar Levels.- As of November 28, 2005, at least 2,107 U.S. Troops Had Died In Iraq and Over 15,500 Were Wounded.- Almost 94 Percent of All U.S. Fatalities Have Occurred Since Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 Pentagon propaganda an effort to "get the truth out," senator saysOne of the companies involved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 British Mercenaries Shooting at Baghdad MotoristsThey are above the law I see...Good video, available in wmv, or quicktime.Watch it British mercenary firm with Pentagon contracts exposed in civilian shooting incidentAww how cute. Hire someone else do your dirty work to instill fear in Iraqis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Family Upset Over Soldier's Body Arriving As FreightDead heroes are supposed to come home with their coffins draped with the American flag -- greeted by a color guard.But in reality, many are arriving as freight on commercial airliners -- stuffed in the belly of a plane with suitcases and other cargo.EDIT:Evidence found that CIA abducted and transferred people between countries1. Deny accusations2. Continue denying3. ? ? ? ? ?4. Profit!EDITCIA Prisons Moved To North Africa?Now to revise what I said above.1. Deny accusations2. Continue denying3. Move prisons to North Africa!4. Profit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordos45 Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/12/15/iraq.elections/index.htmlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4530226.stmIraqi Elections were today, in fact they're still going on because of an extension for all the people in line. Despite some attacks, including a large explosion minutes after the polls opened. Turnout, by estimated population percentage, looks higher than my nation normally experiences; and we don't have to brave roving gunmen, mortars, and searches by US troops and Iraqi Police to cast our ballots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Bush says WMD were "irrelevant" to the U.S. invasion of Iraq.So basically he didn't care if they had WMD or not. Bush had his own agenda.EDIT:Bush authorized NSA to spy on Americans and the White House suppressed a NY Times report on the subject for a whole year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dude_Doc Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 The worst thing about surveillance is that when the high-ups install it, they won't take it down again. I believe it is only a question of time before Patriot Act becomes a part of the general American law - that there won't be any timelimit on it.Killing terrorists only breed more, and they can keep on killing them until there is not one human left on this planet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 The renewal of the patriot act was shot down yesterday.http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/16/patriot.act/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dude_Doc Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 That's always good to hear - officially. Anyways, how are things in Iraq? What I'm hearing, the "terrorists" is loosing. Anyone knows anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted December 24, 2005 Share Posted December 24, 2005 A bit late, the other day (yesterday?) the Patriot act was renewed for 6 months.EDIT:Actually it was passed for 6 months, but the house changed it to 1 month today.Washington Post, 1 month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted December 24, 2005 Share Posted December 24, 2005 I think it would be really funny if the US let Saddam go because it's Christmas. Army: You'll be going on trial.Saddam: But it's Christmas! *Puppy dog eyes*Army: Awww, alright. But you behave now. Here's the keys. Yeah, that cracks me up, I'm weird... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Investigator: U.S. 'Outsourced' TortureWho didn't see this coming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Anyone remember when Bush a couple days ago in his State of the Union address "vows to cut Middle-east oil imports by 75%"?One day after President Bush vowed to reduce America's dependence on Middle East oil by cutting imports from there 75 percent by 2025, his energy secretary and national economic advisor said Wednesday that the president didn't mean it literally.So why would Bush say that he is cutting it by 75% when in fact he is not.Spin spin spinnnn spiin everything.Bush defends Exxon Mobil profitswtf? Sure there is a supply and demand thing, but can they not do anything about it? It's rigged, and they come up with any excuse to raise the prices.That's like the insurance companies that increased all their rates and "magically" got record profits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Bush "specifically authorized" Libby to leak infoBush authorized him to leak information from a classified intelligence report to a New York Times reporter.!!!!!!!!!!!So this means that Bush can be impeached along with Cheney?(oh wait he can only be impeached if he gets a blow job, because we all know that a blow job shows what a terrible and corrupt leader you are.)I think it will be interesting to see how Fox news spins it to somehow blame democrats.It's on CNN now.Everyone RIOT.EDIT: someone is spinning it on CNN right now. lol.EDIT:This is front page main story on cbc.ca as He hates leaks, but Bush authorized one: documents, ctv.ca as Court papers allege Bush leaked Iraqi intelligenceand on cnn.com the main story is about Giuliani testifying at trial about 9/11.... wtf is wrong with USA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobalopper Posted April 8, 2006 Author Share Posted April 8, 2006 The Iraq IndexSome interesting statistics from Iraq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Watching ctv newsnet right now, and they are showing how the Bush government continously lied about the Iraq Biological WMD portable labs back in 2003. 2 days after a team found out that the "labs" had nothing to do with WMD, Bush still went on about how they found WMD labs in Iraq.CNN articleI don't see how anyone can believe a single thing that government says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 Witnesses to Iraqi civilian deaths say Marines killed in retaliationWitnesses to the slaying of 24 Iraqi civilians by U.S. Marines in the western town of Al-Hadithah say the Americans shot men, women and children at close range in retaliation for the death of a Marine lance corporal in a roadside bombing.Wow, I was wrong about Bush. He really is playing hardball against terrorists. ::)Yet another item to add to the long list of failures in Iraq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 Isn't this all art of the plan: the military are supposed to be shocking and awful, aren't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUNWOUNDS Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 Its a different reality over there. Nothing is shocking anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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