Gobalopper Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 Does anyone think I should pester WW about releasing Dune II for download or even the source code? I've tried in the past and it doesn't seem to get too far but I'm willing to keep trying. Recently Star Control 2's source code was released and it is about the same age as Dune II. There have been other games like Betrayal at Krondor or Abuse who've been "legally" made available to download.I don't think petitions are going to make any impact but instead some good arguments on why they should, so lets start... :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IxianMace Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 Well I guess if WW isn't going to be doing anything more with the source code or anything involving Dune II, then they should give the source code to people that can make good use of it. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigel6669 Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 Releasing it would be a good way in promoting the dune games, more people would get intrested in them. Maybe it would even help the sales of the other dune games like EBFD. Keep on trying gob ... please ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefanhendriks Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 woah Gob, if you could do that. It would be GREAT! Dune II source on my HD would like P0rn on a oversexed dude's hd :Dw00t; keep tryin Gob. You'll be my hero if you can manage to get it :D ::) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vidiware Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 Go GOB!Go GOB!Go GOBALOPPER!!!Go GOB!...Good reason these ppl want the source...Nr 1 StefanNr 2 ME!!!!, VidiWareGood reasons:1. We may learn how a RTS game are build up.2. The game is not for sale anmore, and a lot of ppl want to get it.3. Westwood will get back their erlier fans (some of them escaped when ww released their last games...)4. If PPL like westwood engines... more RTS are sold...5. We Want It...6. Id has released the Wolfenstein and Doom source... (not the wad/data, but that detail is our secret ::))7. We want to improve it...8. The game is toally abandoned by everyone...9. www.dune2k.com derserve that from westwood...10. It could be a wonderful christmas gift from ww to us...11. More dune2 modding are possible... and we can make dune2 for more modern pcs... and even give ww the new version for sale as a GNU style game... Dune 2: The Building of a Dynasti...Enchanted Edition, now with better resolutions and AI, improovements + a lot mroe...12. Cuz we are the best...13. cuz i say so...here are a few reasonsCan you make the post sticky??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconius Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 If i was a lead designer i would be facinated to see what the hardcore section of my market want by giving them the source-code of the most basic game i have -> provided the game is not on the market anymore ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minniat Posted December 15, 2002 Share Posted December 15, 2002 (...)6. Id has released the Wolfenstein and Doom source... (not the wad/data, but that detail is our secret ::))Actually ID released also its Quake and Quake 2 source codes...All four have been ported for Amiga ::) (it's not a joke)The main argument is that Dune 2:Battle for Arrakis takes 2nd place on all-time best games list!!!! Appreciate Amiga fans vote.But I'm afraid that Westwood no longer possesses source code which is "abandoned" or "lost" aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobalopper Posted December 16, 2002 Author Share Posted December 16, 2002 I will send another email and see what I can pry out of them. The problem is probably contacts, without knowing the right people its a lot harder to get someone to do something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vidiware Posted December 16, 2002 Share Posted December 16, 2002 Yes...But i think if we ask them enough times well get it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edric O Posted December 16, 2002 Share Posted December 16, 2002 They could make a media event out of it and use it to advertise Emperor a lot.They could also make the source code available only to those people with Emperor installed. Or if they decide to release the game for free, they could make it so that it only works when you have Emperor installed. This could greatly boost Emperor sales.(of course it's gonna get cracked in no time, but don't tell them that ;) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 Tell them...They've not got the best reputation for customer care and service, and their communities don't always see eye-to-eye with them, especially the Dune community after the Emperor fiasco. Releasing such sourcecode would be an excellent way to make amends, without costing them a penny, and could help secure a more trusting audience for future games.Or, put another way...WW, you need to prove to your customers that you're not just after their money; to release source code for Dune II would make you appear to be nicer people, and this misht boost your future sales and therefore appease your shareholders and pay your wages better. And it won't cost you anything but an hour or so of simple work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconius Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 i'd be very surprised if they respond -> after all, they are now part of the EA blood sucking group. :PThey just want your money. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vidiware Posted December 26, 2002 Share Posted December 26, 2002 But yeah...we are interested ... can you ask them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmage Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 I think you guys are going to hit a major brickwall here... we've been trying for ages to get origin to release wing commander source copde (1990) they said it was against their policy to do so... I can't remember this for sure but I think it might have been an EA policy not an origin policy... you might want to check with westwood but don't hold your breath for the source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vidiware Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 Please just ask...Please give them a few reasons or something and ask them if they can release... To be better than ID Software Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefanhendriks Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 well, it would be cool if they released the source. But i don't think they will do it; they are to selfish >:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koen Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 They are going to give reasons like:"Uhm, no, can't do that, because we use propriatiery libraries in there which can't be released."See? I don't know how to spell propriatiery ::) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vidiware Posted January 11, 2003 Share Posted January 11, 2003 anyway gob...plase go and ask them!We will not use their source to make a piracy clan for all WW games...and even if they had some legal things do like id software... release exe have copyright at graphics...or at least release a platinum dune pack with dune2, emperor and dune2k.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefanhendriks Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 WW should not care if we could recompile it. if we want the source for learning/educational purposes we don't care about compiling. Besides, any libraries used (if any) are so out-dated, it should not be a problem to adjust the code to newer libraries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidu Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 The Dune2 SDK (source developer's kit) would be a really good idea.But what about the Dune (1) source code? That game is ancient... But it's one of the best games I ever played (next to Battlecruiser 3000 AD, Gothic, Dune2, Half-Life, Morrowind). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobalopper Posted January 13, 2003 Author Share Posted January 13, 2003 Well Cryo is in bad shape plus I don't know who I would contact to even look into that.Chris, Delphi, replied back and said the chances are next to none but to try Louis Castle. So once I find his email I will try him next. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidu Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 Well, if the Dune2 SDK would be useful... the Dune1 SDk would be at least interesting. I wonder what they used (C++, Pascal), what graphics files... and how did they managed to do that facial animation that is used as well in Dune2's briefings.Anyway... these sources, if they will be ready for dowload... where should we try to find them? I mean: will they be available at Fed2k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobalopper Posted January 13, 2003 Author Share Posted January 13, 2003 Well if Westwood was to make them available I suppose they might put them on their ftp servers... hard to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vidiware Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 Can you ask them as soon as possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobalopper Posted January 16, 2003 Author Share Posted January 16, 2003 As soon as I get Louis' email address. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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