Marcel71 Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 FINAL LIST NOVEMBER:Matching IP: 10.10.12X.XXXClan: br1ckt0p [*snatch*] = dleph [dleph will rule you] = lordchtr [cheating mother f*ck*rs] = Matching IP: 106.216.5X.XXXClan: avroman15 [london] = pursute [a.w.p] = Matching IP: 112.75.13X.XXXClan: frostypig [paranoid incredible gansters] = mant0us [take heed] = pr0m3thuz [we stand al0ne] = Matching IP: 12.26.23X.XXXClan: brimmst4r [skum juniors] = s3ntinal [*skum*] = Matching IP: 135.153.14X.XXXClan: kotolo [urameshi] = rotaset3 [esquadroes urbanos ] = Matching IP: 137.15.12X.XXXClan: dleph [dleph will rule you] = lordchtr [cheating mother f*ck*rs] = Matching IP: 139.66.17X.XXXClan: darksard [the dark side of dune] = lorddrak1 [kingsofdune] = Matching IP: 14.93.16X.XXXClan: oldgasbag [old age players club] = slibster [elctro magnetic pulse] = Matching IP: 142.22.20X.XXXClan: jager40 [orlox7] = kingmaris [orlox7] = Matching IP: 151.182.18X.XXXClan: casey2108 [rad] = ipmano [independent players] = slade747 [system first] = Matching IP: 154.28.9X.XXXClan: lexcyer [die-all] = tracxm [fedaykin elite warriors] = v0ltzsh0k [flukes like u xtingushed] = Matching IP: 154.95.14X.XXXClan: d3fc0n777 [ killers of the night] = igotabig [shadow legion of nether-gorge] = ixfactor [ the lone ranger] = Matching IP: 157.138.5X.XXXClan: b1ade99 [kill nuke if enemy] = darkfeast [the dark side of dune] = Matching IP: 158.184.19X.XXXClan: eyehat [mu zein wallah] = munkybhai [mu zein wallah] = Matching IP: 160.2.19X.XXXClan: heteharry [bbq] = krulman6 [team rocket and co] = loslocos5 [killers of the air!] = xhashmanx [just 5t0n3z] = Matching IP: 163.91.21X.XXXClan: newlords [gangs of dune] = tuan2k [gangs of dune] = Matching IP: 171.184.23X.XXXClan: febring [feb] = killinwar [koster] = Matching IP: 183.163.7X.XXXClan: aregtop [battle for us] = deaths6 [emperor battle field] = team89 [emperor battle field] = Matching IP: 193.161.15X.XXXClan: deth99999 [team rocket and co] = ghatel1 [deth for all] = Matching IP: 193.205.16X.XXXClan: supr3m3xx [a.w.p] = xsupr3m3x [gangs of dune] = Matching IP: 195.0.24X.XXXClan: dark3x50 [the dark side of dune] = slicex50 [team lizards] = Matching IP: 208.174.4X.XXXClan: elite47 [endo] = mstaki11a [elite chronic smoking assassins] = Matching IP: 216.96.11X.XXXClan: atoz2000 [garde des gurahl] = lordbaer [garde des gurahl] = Matching IP: 22.69.16X.XXXClan: rotaset3 [esquadroes urbanos ] = saintjr7 [gangs of dune] = Matching IP: 242.202.17X.XXXClan: agetheman [e.p. ripperz] = almebaby [its all about me baby] = dukes19 [e.p. ripperz] = magicage8 [twizted jugalos] = nexed14 [the atreides destroyers] = Matching IP: 252.162.4X.XXXClan: doomp0w3r [*skum*] = skumruler [*skum*] = Matching IP: 39.135.19X.XXXClan: b0r15 [*snatch*] = princchtr [cheating mother f*ck*rs] = Matching IP: 39.24.20X.XXXClan: jager40 [orlox7] = kingmaris [orlox7] = Matching IP: 45.209.18X.XXXClan: ares4u [your god] = princchtr [cheating mother f*ck*rs] = Matching IP: 47.21.18X.XXXClan: lowzeewee [champion league] = lowzeewee [the alliance group] = Matching IP: 48.104.16X.XXXClan: ninja256 [u.a.e---team no.1] = sjamaster [u.a.e---team no.1] = Matching IP: 55.94.6X.XXXClan: bryorama [elite independant fighting squad] = bryorama2 [the dark side of dune] = Matching IP: 60.153.22X.XXXClan: gimbala00 [bse - mks] = k0i0l0l0a [bse - mks] = k0mpr3s0r [-fight for funn-] = Matching IP: 71.3.0X.XXXClan: alchemi [fishspeakers] = alchemi2 [the knights of idaho] = wormf00d [f00d] = Matching IP: 76.242.16X.XXXClan: datokerj [dashmokerz] = datokerj [ghosts of dune] = datokerj2 [maddcats] = Matching IP: 80.70.1X.XXXClan: fremsaduk [a.w.p] = ruud2956 [vigor] = seal5687 [a.w.p] = Matching IP: 85.203.14X.XXXClan: c0nan26 [-fight for funn-] = derherz0g [bse - mks] = Matching IP: 89.144.0X.XXXClan: betafish [no name required] = d4ylight [sunny day today] = s0ccerrls [all day i dream about sports] = shipwr3ck [disoblige] = xz3r0x [c0l0r] = xz3r0x [kill nuke if enemy] = xz3r0x [motor] = xz3r0x [z3r0 just z3r0 thats all 0o0o0o0] = xz3r0x [z3r0 just z3r0 thats all......] = xz3r0x [z3r0] = xz3r0x [zero just zero..................] = Amount: 597 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clam74 Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 sorry to ask but i just wanna know how using two different nicks in 1 month is considered cheating, i dont see the problem can u please clear this up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobalopper Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 It goes against the rules outlined by WW, it has always been that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clam74 Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 well i understand that but what i'm trying to say is say i play with 1 nick and get 10 wins and 10 loses,then i decide to use another nick and say get 5 wins and 3 loses where did i cheat,i mean how? if ur not using ur first nick to give points to ur second nick i dont see how it can be cheating,and just so u know i did use 2 different nicks in previous months but i never new it was considered cheating,plus lately i've been playing bc with then nick skumclam and qm with clam74,is that considered cheating also,and if it is i wont do it no more but it just dont make sence to me,and sorry for the long post but i'm just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3m0nger Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 Look, If you play with a nick lets say 12345678, and u lost 4 times against player 8888888, then you decide to use a new nick name: 77777777 then u play 888888 again, and this time u win, since u don't have points and he does, he will lose alote pts, And u already played him with your other nick, so thats cheating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel71 Posted November 9, 2002 Author Share Posted November 9, 2002 I do not consider it cheating if you have two nicks in the the same clan (i found 1).But imagine your Clan is #1 and then u just say, i am going to start another clan and start playing the #2 and #3 clans. If they win, they get little points, but if they lose you take a lot of points from them.. Then your first clan is nicely save..And now people can check this list if they are going to do bc. So they know who they really playing against.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobalopper Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 clam its not fair to others if you start playing and then just decide to stop for whatever reason. In other tournaments you can't drop out and start playing under a different name why should Emperor be any different?Marcel it might be useful to have a complete list at the top of the first post just so you can find all the nicks quickly without having to look through the whole post as it might get pretty big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navaros Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 I do not consider it cheating if you have two nicks in the the same clan (i found 1).it is. that is quite illegal as it should be, and if you don't think you should follow that rule just because you don't agree with it then you are in no position to make a list of BC clan cheaters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobalopper Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 What is wrong with that? I don't see how having two nicks in a clan could be cheating. Regardless of which of them plays the points always go to the same place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyPIG Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 Using multiple nicks in the same month gives a disadvantage to every single person you play. Lets say you have 2 nicks: Nick1 and Nick2.Nick1 has 1000 points on it. Nick2 has 0.You play someone under Nick2 with 0 points and lose. That person gets a max of 32 points. But if you played them with your Nick1 name, then they would have recieved WAY more points.You play someone with Nick2 and win. That player had 500 points. He loses a lot of points. If you had played him with Nick1 he would have lost very few points.It basically contaminates the ladder system.Nav, you can't use westwood rules to defend yourself. If westwood rules had been enforced you would have been banned months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobalopper Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 Does the same happen for BC though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyPIG Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 The same happens for BC if you have 2 nicks in different clans...if they're in the same clan it won't make a difference, but there used to be a rule that could be interpreted as prohibiting that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopydooky Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 OK this is how it works.....u are in a clan with 400 pts and u have 2 nicks in. if your nicks are nick1 and nick2 and u win a bcm with nick1 it goes to the clan NOT him. If nick2 has lost 4 in a row them the clan would lose the points. when u play bcm the points dont go to the player, they go to the clan.now if u make another clan with nick2 and he beats a team in #1 then his clan would get a bunch of points and the other clan would lose a lot of points.that is when it would be considered cheating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyPIG Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 ...thats what I said... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue1896 Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 i still don't get it. but then again, there is quite a bit i don't get. maybe, try to make a table of it or something. maybe that'll clear it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyPIG Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 Read my post about Nick1 and Nick2... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue1896 Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 so then...Nick 1 = 1000 pointsNick 2 = 0 pointsNick 2 vs. Anonymous = Anonymous Win Anonymous gets 32 pointsNick 1 vs. Anonymous = Anonymous Win Anonymous gets >32 pointsNick 2 vs. 500pointAnonymous = Nick 2 Win 500pointAnonymous loses lots of pointsNick 1 vs. 500pointAnonymous = Nick 1 Win 500pointAnonymous loses a few pointsoh, i think i get it now. so then ppl who are high up make a new name and play the ppl higher than them. If they win, they cause those ppl do lose an insane amount of points. but if they lose, nothing happens to their actual nick. yeah, that is cheating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyPIG Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 Exactly. The very second you use two nicks in a month, even if it's just for one game, you are screwing that person and every person you play after that out of points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel71 Posted November 10, 2002 Author Share Posted November 10, 2002 But is that also for BC??I am totally confused..If let's say we have a clan called: CHEATER ;)Then there are two members: ACHEAT and BCHEAT.(actually it is the same person)ACHEAT playes for the clan CHEATER 10 games and wins them all.Then he comes with his other nick BCHEAT.He playes a game for the clan CHEATERS, and loses..The clan CHEATER would lose as many points as they would lose when ACHEATER would have lost.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Co1dsteel Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 Well frostypig isnt a cheater. mant0us is just his brother. Thats why they have the same IP adress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel71 Posted November 10, 2002 Author Share Posted November 10, 2002 sure, suddenly everybody his brother is playing ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue1896 Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 i have a brother too. i've actually tried to get him to play a few games online so he can test his mad skillz at an RTS against an ACTUAL human player instead of the dumbass computer. he refused. so i don't have that problem at all. i really would've loved to see him get totally squashed between the toes of someone tho. but eh, at least i know i'm better than him at an RTS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipzorj Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 LOL u say mano is also casey2108 and slade747 thats stupidMatching IP: 151.182.18X.XXXClan: casey2108 [rad] = ipmano [independent players] = slade747 [system first] = if u see the BC ladder u can see the november 3ipmano [independent players] defeats casey2108 [rad]ipmano [independent players] defeats casey2108 [rad]slade747 [system first] defeats casey2108 [rad]ipmano [independent players] defeats slade747 [system first]He cannot play against himself loland if u see ip of all players during these games u can see they have all 151.182.18X.XXX or 0.0.0X.XXXthe only explanation is that wol sucks and i hope not to teach it to you ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue1896 Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 not to hurt your feelings, but he can play against himself. ppl have done it. sad really. but ppl have done it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethan Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 LOL u say mano is also casey2108 and slade747 thats stupidMatching IP: 151.182.18X.XXXClan: casey2108 [rad] = ipmano [independent players] = slade747 [system first] = if u see the BC ladder u can see the november 3ipmano [independent players] defeats casey2108 [rad]ipmano [independent players] defeats casey2108 [rad]slade747 [system first] defeats casey2108 [rad]ipmano [independent players] defeats slade747 [system first]He cannot play against himself loland if u see ip of all players during these games u can see they have all 151.182.18X.XXX or 0.0.0X.XXXthe only explanation is that wol sucks and i hope not to teach it to you ;Dwake up, its called a LAN with both comps having net. they go on Net multi, instead of LAN which is the only place they are supposed to go. they then have 2 people (or 1 person running back and forth), playing eachother. then one wins, and gets points, therefore, illegally pushing their rank up the boards.sorry if i sound mean, its just cheating other people out of a better rank, and i dont like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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