Guild Maker Posted October 13, 2002 Share Posted October 13, 2002 As an old player i suggest to start with:-------------------------------------------1. The turrets as these are defencive.2. Then i build an army to attack with.3. Make a second one to with your best soldiers.4. I suggest to make friendship with the sadukar as soon as possible.5. Build 20 primary sard and 5 secondary sards.6. Position the 1st army in the primary passage your enemy passes fromm.7. Block her the way and position the second army where the enemy units are produced.8. How you have to make the sards destroy the buildigs.------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty_Square Posted October 13, 2002 Share Posted October 13, 2002 I suggest you 're ordos and do the following:Build barracksBuild scouts and quickly scout the mapBuild 10 chemsBuild factoryBuild 6-8 dust scoutsSend them to the enemy 's base. You just won.Of course don't try this against a high-skilled player. There are more advanced tactics you should use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guild Maker Posted October 13, 2002 Author Share Posted October 13, 2002 I don't think you would do the same in the later levels?? ::) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty_Square Posted October 13, 2002 Share Posted October 13, 2002 I 'm talking about multi-player.But unless there is a sub-mission (find fremen, kill sardaukar or whatever), I would rush in campaign too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethan Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 As an old player i suggest to start with:-------------------------------------------1. The turrets as these are defencive.2. Then i build an army to attack with.3. Make a second one to with your best soldiers.4. I suggest to make friendship with the sadukar as soon as possible.5. Build 20 primary sard and 5 secondary sards.6. Position the 1st army in the primary passage your enemy passes fromm.7. Block her the way and position the second army where the enemy units are produced.8. How you have to make the sards destroy the buildigs.------------------------------------------actually, thats okay if the difficulty is easy, but dont do it against expirienced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty_Square Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 easy-normal-hardThey 're all the same. Can't see the difference when playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken124578 Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 Its because you and i rush, if we didn't we would notice quite an change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IxianMace Posted October 16, 2002 Share Posted October 16, 2002 I think on the Easy/Normal/Hard settings, the AI gets to build at varying speeds. For example, on the Normal setting the AI builds at the normal build times, but on the Hard settings, the AI gets to build faster. The attack groups are also more vicious and larger, if you let the AI get to that stage as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted October 16, 2002 Share Posted October 16, 2002 There is alot of difference in the difficulty levels. Play on hard. And let the opponent build for 5 minutes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baronvonflames Posted October 16, 2002 Share Posted October 16, 2002 there is a really big difference cause when i cant get on WOL, i play against the computer. i always just do stuff random but if you just sit there and build up your technology levels, and smalll amounts of units the hard ppl will pound the crap out of your base and they'll use long range units (kobra, inkvine, mino) against your turrets so they do no good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty_Square Posted October 17, 2002 Share Posted October 17, 2002 You can simply rush and wipe the AI out before it gets the chance to do all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken124578 Posted October 17, 2002 Share Posted October 17, 2002 This is about giving the AI an fair chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warlord Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 Well whatever...About the topic, For Harkonnen, Depend on Units as primary defense with the assistance of a couple gun turrets. Then later on in the game, screw the defense buildings and just get ADPs, Devestators, and Flametanks as your protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty_Square Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 Even if you wait for it to build, you can still win easily. Simply build a strong defense and don't bother about attack. Then start building air forces of your house (ornis, gunships or eits) in great numbers. Always work.Once I used about 80 eits in total (used them in 7 attacks) to destroy a hark base. The majority of the eits acted as baits for his missile tanks and troopers, and the rest did the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty_Square Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 Even if you wait for it to build, you can still win easily. Simply build a strong defense and don't bother about attack. Then start building air forces of your house (ornis, gunships or eits) in great numbers. Always works.Once I used about 80 eits in total (used them in 7 attacks) to destroy a hark base. The majority of the eits acted as baits for his missile tanks and troopers, and the rest did the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken124578 Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 You posted that twice. Anyway, building mass gunships against Atreides doesn't work because airdrones own gunships. That also counts for the Ordos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IxianMace Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 The AI doesn't really build Air Drones, and even if the AI does, it doesn't know how to use them properly, they always send them over ground units and just stay overhead. ::) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty_Square Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 Sorry for the two posts.Ken go ahead and try it. Yep the AI does build AA defences BUTif you have a strong defense, it's too dumb to think of camping oo your spice field. Therefore you have an excellent economy and can amass as many air units as you want.I just played a skirmish against a hark ai. Using only ornis, some turrets and 1 mino I got 496 kills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IxianMace Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 I just played a skirmish against a hark ai. Using only ornis, some turrets and 1 mino I got 496 kills.I presume you had repair vehicles repairing the mino and the ornis. Otherwise, I must really admire your skill at micromanaging your units and keeping them in good shape, and getting that many kills. I guess your ornis and mino were probably all elite by then eh? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty_Square Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 Nope I didn't use a repair unit and that's why ornis suffered heavy losses. The mino however got quickly elite, and after that it was almost impossible for the enemy to kill it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken124578 Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 Ken go ahead and try it. Try what ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWACS Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 I think best use or ginships, ornies are against ordos, exploit they're weakness, AA. Works for me take out they're turrets with gunships inkvine people as they excape and then send the tanks, buzzsaws and missile turrets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethan Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 Rushing just never works against an AI no matter how skillful you are.uh, no. i can rush with Atredies (yes atredies) and still win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warlord Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 Rushing ALWAYS works against the AI on ALL occasions. It doesnt matter how "smart" you think the AI is, its a computer, all computers cant get smarter or learn from previous mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethan Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 Rushing ALWAYS works against the AI on ALL occasions. It doesnt matter how "smart" you think the AI is, its a computer, all computers cant get smarter or learn from previous mistakes.what he said. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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