Edric O Posted October 5, 2002 Share Posted October 5, 2002 Don't underestimate the power of having a common enemy, Ordos45.You don't have to LIKE your allies, just fight alongside them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted October 5, 2002 Share Posted October 5, 2002 Just be sure that you "common enemy" (and its allies) is not only in the wrong, but also more so than the sum of yourself and your allies. Else you find yourself in a morally untenable position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted October 5, 2002 Share Posted October 5, 2002 Hmmmm, I thought that christianity believed that non believes are misguided people that should be converted rather then exterminated. O well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted October 5, 2002 Share Posted October 5, 2002 That's a matter of opinion. While I agree with you some people think that there should be more crusades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 That's a matter of opinion. While I agree with you some people think that there should be more crusades.Like edric for example, who for some unknown reason thinks killing athiests would make it all better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Atheism is something that Catholics and all religions are going to have to tolerate for a long time. Until God comes down to convince us, were sticking to it, and atheists always will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 "Like edric for example, who for some unknown reason thinks killing athiests would make it all better. "That was a joke, wasn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 "Like edric for example, who for some unknown reason thinks killing athiests would make it all better. "That was a joke, wasn't it?My post or his? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 I hope it was a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 I hope it was a joke.My post or his?! Lol sheesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edric O Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Killing atheists? OMG, I never said anything like that! :OI said "fighting" atheists. Not physically, of course. Duh ::)I meant "fighting" with ideas and arguments, on the moral and ideological "battlefield". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Nema is right. Just because a common enemy is around for two, that doesnt mean the two should agree. Like the weasle and the wolf in the fables of Aesop. Once they both worked together for food then they went back to fighting eachother. Also look at WW2. We had a great old friend that helped us out. He turned the tide of the war. His name was Joseph Stalin.lol Still though edric you are a brother in christ so we are friends. that doesnt mean I will take your side every time though. everybody can be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 I meant Edric's comment about fighting atheists. While I respect Christians because of their positive effect on people, the world would be better off all atheist. It would be better then all Christian. Without religion fights wouldn't be started over interpretations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 in other words inoculator it would be better off without people... lol Your right too. its a dumb debate and there is no honor in war, period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 I have no idea how you could glean that from my statement. I think the world would be better of all atheist. There would be no heretical conflicts. All the churches of the earth have killed heretics. If we all believed totally in Christianity, totally without any doubts what so ever then the world would be better off that way. It would be great either way. But I don't know why you could possibly think I said no people at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 Edric, please elaborate next time! You make things too ambiguous and think we know what you are saying! In context your message is very misleading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 Yeah Edric you are a little vague, try to explain your reasoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 Inoculator, if we all were atheists, we would live as an animals. Without morale or straight sense of life, just trying to do what is possible and what can help us in this life, no matter how it will effect next times or other people. It would replace heretical fights, but without morale whole world would be in permanent fight for survival. Classical darwinistic blind way of unintelligent creatures. Without any existing religion, who would teach us basics of morale? Philosophers? Who will hear them? And who will inspire them to think also? I think religiosity is a best sign of human intelligence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron_carl Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 At least 'unintelligent' animals don't start a war over different religions and cultures :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emprworm Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 no, they just kill each other out of primal instinct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quoudam72 Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 Which ones the animals or the people. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 If there was no God, man would find it necessary to invent one.-VoltaireAnyway, it's stupid to say atheists have no morale. As if all christians abide by the morales set out by the bible ::). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 Exactly, just as many crimes have been commited by Christians, if not more then atheists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quoudam72 Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 What type of 'crimes' would we be discussing? I mean there is no way to keep score on something of this nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjCiD Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 I will be the first to admit I have sinned and I believe in God... nobody is perfect... John 8:7"If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to cast a stone at her." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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