DarkElf49 Posted August 31, 2002 Share Posted August 31, 2002 I know neither is evil, but witch in your opinion is more evil. Ix or the Teliaxtu.At first sight I'd think the Teliaxtu :) , but the Ix in GEOD (so far, 1/2 way through) are also breaking the "human morals" of the book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IxianMace Posted August 31, 2002 Share Posted August 31, 2002 I'd say the Tleilaxu definitely because they are untrustworthy, and create gholas. Generally, they're a bunch of shady characters, especially with their Face Dancers. The Ixians are more techonology oriented, if you're referring to God Emperor of Dune, I guess you mean the part where they created Hwi Noree as a 'perfect' creation to subtly attack the emperor Leto II. But in that case they were just trying to get rid of the emperor due to his oppressive laws and his prescience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordos45 Posted August 31, 2002 Share Posted August 31, 2002 It depends on your views of evil. I would have to put them in a tie.The Ixians are notorious for stretching the line between humans and machines in the likeness of humans throughout the books. They are violating morals, etc.The Tlielaxu, they freak me out. They're twisting of genetics, creating replicas of the dead, etc. Its just not good in my opinion, yet not entirely what i consider evil. So I'm divided on the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted August 31, 2002 Share Posted August 31, 2002 In first were "supreme evil" Shaddam IV. and Harkonnens, in Messiah Tleilaxu, in Children Alia, in God Emperor Ix and in Heretics Honored Matres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vidiware Posted August 31, 2002 Share Posted August 31, 2002 never read the books but i look at ix as the 'good guys' IX Rules... IX shal rule your computer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted August 31, 2002 Share Posted August 31, 2002 I'd call neither Ix or Tleilax evil- maybe the honoured matres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted September 8, 2002 Share Posted September 8, 2002 Everyone is evil from another point of view. The Tleilaxu are/were religous fanatics and saw everyone else as evil. But everyone else say them as 'the dirty Tleilaxu.' It all depends on your point of view.(But I'd say the REALLY evil ones are the Honoured Matres.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted September 8, 2002 Share Posted September 8, 2002 Your right viscount in many ways. Each is evil in their own way. its a given with power structures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 Ix are not evil. They are the Atreides allies, how can they be evil?And of course the teilaxu are evil, they are almost as pure evil as possible...well of course the Harkonnens are even more evil, but that is impossible to vercome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 And it did say in the books that power doesn't corrupt, it merely attracts the corruptable. Meaning that anyone in a position of power is threoretically evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 I read that today in Children of Dune acctually. And the harkonnens should have more power so that they seem more evil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLContaminator Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 Tleilaxu becouse what we do is ilegelso we are evil thats whats make us good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 hm, do you think that the harkonnen spice stockpiling is legal, or the production of atomics?and what is it the tleilaxu doers which is illegal?Ix probably produce computers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 Ix isn`t evil at all for me. And Tleilaxu in House Atreides made this war on Ix. So the are worse not only than Ix... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khan Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 Yeah tleilaxu are definately more evil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 To be evil you have to be sofisticated also, orelse you are just mad. and that is exactly what House Harkonnen is, with their devious schemes ;Dand I didn't mean that Ix is evil, I just meant that they also do illegall stuff. and they couldn't be evil, cos their atreides allies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel_Worf Posted October 4, 2002 Share Posted October 4, 2002 The Tleilaxu, definetely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted October 4, 2002 Share Posted October 4, 2002 Ix are evil in the sense of Dune. They arrange design and sell shrubberies, err thinking machines/technology and thus so forever carveth in stone as heretics. In the sense of present day reality Earth, Tleilaxu because making computers is fine, but cloning people for slaves/further use is more evil (maybe not very evil, but more nevertheless).And you can save your "read the thread you idiot that's been said already" I am too lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted October 4, 2002 Share Posted October 4, 2002 what is thje point of cloning expenisve slaves when u can just find them in a village on your own planet ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Rhetoric Posted October 4, 2002 Share Posted October 4, 2002 Tleilaxu.At least the Ixians don't steal the dead......And the ix don't reproduce themselves when an infeltrator explodes near a group of units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 I vote the Tleilaxu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarahbones Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 I'd say the Tleilax are more evil but also have the capacity to do more good. The Ixians are trying to copy the human mind. The Tleilax are tampering with human genetics. But a thinking-machine is at best a thinking-machine, whereas the Tleilax are able to "revive" lost loved ones and other relics of the past (not that they would do it out of sheer kindness or anything). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Rhetoric Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 I'd say the Tleilax are more evil but also have the capacity to do more good. The Ixians are trying to copy the human mind. The Tleilax are tampering with human genetics. But a thinking-machine is at best a thinking-machine, whereas the Tleilax are able to "revive" lost loved ones and other relics of the past (not that they would do it out of sheer kindness or anything).Revive?LOL! ;D Unless someone wants a disfigured zombie going arounfd and slapping them with muck than nobody would want them.The Ixians are trying to copy the human mind.THE TLEILAX ARE TAMPERING WITH HUMAN GENETICS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 Mad, I assume you haven't read the books?The Tleilaxu can make genetic duplicates out of corpses, though they initially didn't have the ability to give the ghola back the memories of his "past life". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Rhetoric Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 Mad, I assume you haven't read the books?The Tleilaxu can make genetic duplicates out of corpses, though they initially didn't have the ability to give the ghola back the memories of his "past life".OK,I know that,so i mean,why would someone want a replica of lost loved ones when it is going around killin people?*Thinks of your grandma going around with a chain gun and gunning people down* ;D ::) ^-^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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