shortbusme182 Posted August 5, 2002 Share Posted August 5, 2002 I don't know why westwood just abandoened Emporer, i mean if it was for bad sales blame their marketing,(which sucked emensly) but they should aleast consider to make a new patch or expansion pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert_Eagle25 Posted August 5, 2002 Share Posted August 5, 2002 Too lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
path_xiii Posted August 5, 2002 Share Posted August 5, 2002 perhaps WW could create a patch for Emperor using a *tiny* cut of the [HUGE] profit they'll make from CnC:Generals???*hint hint WW.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sh3llsh0ck Posted August 5, 2002 Share Posted August 5, 2002 Giving a hint to Westwood is the same as telling a camel to jump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortbusme182 Posted August 5, 2002 Author Share Posted August 5, 2002 Emporer is the best RTS out there or atleast till C&C Gernerals but still, i mean they give so much crap to like tiberan sun or Red Alert 2 but ignore Emporer.people these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frodo Posted August 5, 2002 Share Posted August 5, 2002 red alert 2 has been abandoned also, so has tiberian sun, westwood just does not care for their games. Plus they didn't even make emperor, IG did, but they still abandoned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
path_xiii Posted August 5, 2002 Share Posted August 5, 2002 how feasible will it be create a patch for emperor? Would there be someone (or some people) out there who have the skills and knowledge to do it? If we all submit things that need to be patched and agree on the final list of things to change/add/remove, then perhaps it could be done. Of course, i don't have a clue about games development and mods so could someone provide some (intelligible) feedback on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frodo Posted August 5, 2002 Share Posted August 5, 2002 you would probably need the source code is my thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
path_xiii Posted August 5, 2002 Share Posted August 5, 2002 ahh.. we can forget about it then.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobalopper Posted August 5, 2002 Share Posted August 5, 2002 I was told it was because Emperor didn't sell very much but I was never given totals. It probably sold fairly well but just not up to the standards Westwood wanted.And a patch is highly unlikely at this point seeing how anyone who worked on Emperor at Westwood is gone, well the important ones at least, and IG is working on other games and can't do anything without the ok from Westwood first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostHunter Posted August 5, 2002 Share Posted August 5, 2002 Look people. WW abandon us, PERIOD. No need to continue this subject any further. Until next post, Vilgent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
path_xiii Posted August 5, 2002 Share Posted August 5, 2002 sorry, i should have made myself clear - i was talking about creating the patch (v1.10) ourselves.was thinking about it just now - it wouldn't work anyway, cos there'll be no way of making sure everybody downloads it b4 playing QM or custom games on WOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navaros Posted August 5, 2002 Share Posted August 5, 2002 sorry, i should have made myself clear - i was talking about creating the patch (v1.10) ourselves.was thinking about it just now - it wouldn't work anyway, cos there'll be no way of making sure everybody downloads it b4 playing QM or custom games on WOL.I have had this idea myself.I am of the opinion that if there were people who were *willing and able* to do the work, that EA would give clearance to those people to use the source code and allow for one last mandatory patching of Emperor to 1.10. It would make good business sense for EA to give the go-ahead to the Emperor community to do that. However, the problem lies in making a formal and professional proposal to get this done.If there was one, EA might listen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto Posted August 5, 2002 Share Posted August 5, 2002 A logical and non-flaming post from Nav. :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :OHe's right, though. :O They did say it was OK to Mod, and change XBF's and stuff, and they have pretty much abandoned Emp themselves, so why shouldn't they let us? It would be good for the game, and for their publicity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortbusme182 Posted August 5, 2002 Author Share Posted August 5, 2002 I can see the headlines now, EA Games turnsover all Emporerliabilities and trademarks to various amounts of young adults/teens/creepy old guys, but hey it could happen right? ::) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyPIG Posted August 6, 2002 Share Posted August 6, 2002 You would have to make the patch, test it, correct it, test it some more, then integrate it into the WOL servers and deploy it through the standard patching methods. It would mean WW giving access to people they don't even know, and it might not even work! It's a virtual imposibility. It can't and won't it happen. Besides, I think emp is pretty damn good without a new patch. I think the gameplay and the balance is fine, save a few annoying nick-nack bugs, but once identified they're relatively easy to work around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sh3llsh0ck Posted August 7, 2002 Share Posted August 7, 2002 I agree with ace, i have been playing this game for long (dunno how long) but i really dont think it needs patching this game is just fine as it is. A few little bugs but that comes with every game, and the only one that really hates it is nav, so fuck that.Emp is a great game just leave it as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazyorse Posted August 7, 2002 Share Posted August 7, 2002 only patch that it ll be important to do it's against cheat..it's allfixed ip address and name of the regular cheater and banned them of the tournament..it's all that they ve to do ...the game is really good like thissee u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sh3llsh0ck Posted August 7, 2002 Share Posted August 7, 2002 True, forgot about that only thing that sux is the cheating.but still from what i hear cheating in other games (ie renegade) is much worse then in emp, cuz as far as i know you cant use trainers (out of sync). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazyorse Posted August 7, 2002 Share Posted August 7, 2002 yes true!but if only they could make a patch without dc cheater!cause it's happened to me that i've lost the connection...but it was not a volontary dc...pb with telecom company so i understand that we could banned a guy cause he s lost the connection 1 or 3 times during 1 or 2 months..but i want to say that westwood could give us the right to back in a game after 2 or 3 minutes (or more) before finished the game, and so a unfortunatly man who don't want to dc could back before 3 mins and ONLY HIM could back in the game...if he won't back so he loose!!i know it ll be not really easy to doing that...and it ll be not funny to wait 3 mins a man.but if the guy who not back always loose the dc cheating ll not be a pb.....i hope u can understand what i say!see youPS: don't need to flame me with "it ll never work".....i just want to know if it's a good idea..or not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyarlathotep Posted August 7, 2002 Share Posted August 7, 2002 True, forgot about that only thing that sux is the cheating.but still from what i hear cheating in other games (ie renegade) is much worse then in emp, cuz as far as i know you cant use trainers (out of sync).I haven't seen anyone cheating in Renegade. Although I've been accused of using an "aim bot" ::), I doubt there are any cheats for Renegade (maybe in non laddered games, but I only play laddered).. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert_Eagle25 Posted August 7, 2002 Share Posted August 7, 2002 Not cheats..but "Scripts" that they install into the directory...It gives them Aim Bot and a munc of other LaMeRz type things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjCiD Posted August 7, 2002 Share Posted August 7, 2002 I haven't seen anyone cheating in Renegade. Although I've been accused of using an "aim bot" ::), I doubt there are any cheats for Renegade (maybe in non laddered games, but I only play laddered)..well it has been a long while since i visted the realm of Renegade, but I remeber way back when they released the modding/skin tools ppl were using them to make the stealth units visible (making them viewable on their screen [correct me if im wrong] and not on the other players). Thank goodness emp doesnt allow that... or what would be the use of feds then ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyarlathotep Posted August 7, 2002 Share Posted August 7, 2002 Like said, it's highly unlikely this happening in laddered games. I do not know about non laddered games though. Btw, usually the accusations of cheating happening in game. One guy ran into me about 7 times. All 7 times I killed him. He then said "docnyar is a cheat, cause he uses aimbot". I just told him that it wasn't a good idea to bounce bullets and granade shells back with his head". Never heard from him again.. Others immidiately stated that it was impossible to use cheats in laddered games *shrugs*.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUNWOUNDS Posted August 7, 2002 Share Posted August 7, 2002 Nyar there may not be *public* cheats that work on laddered games.....but there are *private* cheats that work ....these effective private cheats are designed for hackers by hackers and they dont release them to the general public like they do with the less effective public cheats. It is common knowledge that most gaming companies are able to stop the majority of public cheats but the few specially coded private cheats will not be stopped. In Addition since these private cheats are not released to the public... the game designers cannot analyze them to counter them as they are not avaible to the main public.So next time you are playing renegade Nyar and somebody kills YOU 7 times in a row... he might or might not be a cheater but it is a possiblity. And i am sure there are some privately coded aimbots out there for renegade............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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