Emperor Harkonnen Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 What is Family Atomics? I read in dune messiah that only Families were alowed to have atomics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard3000 Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 Family Atomics are nuclear devices. Only the Great Houses are allowed to own caches of them. The Great Convention (the highest set of laws in the Universe) says that they cannot be used - all Great Houses would unite and obliterate any violators. They make some mention in the books of saving the atomics in case of invasion by some alien species. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 Where to they say that vanguard? about protection from alien spieces? If you could point me to the certain place I would be very thankful. it would blow my mind away.lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gryphon Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 It was in Dune I somewhere I thought. But they didn't say an alien species. I think it was something like "any possible thread that's unthinkable to us, unknow to us now and could endanger the know univers". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordos45 Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 Actually, not to contradict, but I think it said aliens somewhere in the prequels.(Nicer message now.) ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 Do I sense a bit of sarcasme in that last post of you Ordos45? I thought it wasn't allowed to flame on the forum? ??? ;) ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted June 25, 2002 Share Posted June 25, 2002 What's wrong on family atomics? Your family haven't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted June 25, 2002 Author Share Posted June 25, 2002 But the sand worm is an alien! it is a creature from another planet than earth so...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard3000 Posted June 25, 2002 Share Posted June 25, 2002 I'm not quite sure where they say it, but I think it was in one of the earlier ones. I'm not sure if it said "alien" specifically. They may have said something like "Outside intelligence" or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted June 25, 2002 Share Posted June 25, 2002 Well, anyway, we will porbably know when Book 7 is written. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted June 25, 2002 Share Posted June 25, 2002 Atomics were reserved for use against the possibiliy of intelligent Alien species which threatened the survival of humanity, acc to the Great Convention. I think it's in the first book somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gryphon Posted June 26, 2002 Share Posted June 26, 2002 I aslo thought the first [ sorry alreadt said that ] but in one of the prequels they could mention it again, I'm not that familiar jet with them.It's a shame I missed that sarcasme Ordos45 ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniper8080 Posted June 26, 2002 Share Posted June 26, 2002 A little of the topic but anyway: What is a stone burner? ??? It is mentioned in the books a few times but never goes into detail. (All though I've only read Dune, Dune Messih, and I'm half way through House Atreides) As far as I know it is so sort of Primitive atomic device that create a substantual amount of radiation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordos45 Posted June 26, 2002 Share Posted June 26, 2002 Now if I remember right a stone burner is an atomic weapon. It gives off a massive ammount of energy and radiation. It can be concentrated in a small area or to cover an entire planet. I think it was also mentioned that they shot energy to a planet core or something like that. (Info brought to you by the prequels and Dune Messiah.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard3000 Posted June 26, 2002 Share Posted June 26, 2002 I believe a StoneBurner is just a simple atomic device. However, it may be a bit more "controlled" than a regular Atomic. I remember in Messiah, they talked about the SB blast "burrowing" under the Arrakeen crust, causing seismic upheaval. However, nuclear weapons of today leave large craters as well.It may also be like the device Dominic used in House Harkonnen, where he set the blast radius to obliterate only his hideout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted June 26, 2002 Share Posted June 26, 2002 I dont go along with the stoneburners in the prequels for this reason. It says they can be set to sear the surface of a planet. I think that came out of the imagination of the two writers. They are ultra powerful dont get me wrong. They are a lot more focused in my opinion though. They are able to dig into a planets surface, given a good amount of time. they must be awesomely powerful. no wonder why they are illegal. even staring at a blast of one can burn the eyes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted June 26, 2002 Share Posted June 26, 2002 Isn't stoneburner just fremen saying for nuclear weapon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander_Ordos Posted June 26, 2002 Share Posted June 26, 2002 Surely not Caid. Stone burner, in my opinion, is a bomb that does damage to surface only and it must start a huge fire blast since it's called a burner... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord J Posted June 26, 2002 Share Posted June 26, 2002 Yeah, I always saw a Stone Burner as a Flamethrower, only a little more powerful. That would go with the fact it can be controlled by one person and easily directed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted June 26, 2002 Share Posted June 26, 2002 lol whoa not a flamethrower. it is much more than that. it doesnt really come close to a flame thrower. it shoots a direct, constant beam. flame throwers dont do that. Watch a flame thrower moved back and forth and you will see the fire "dance". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gryphon Posted June 26, 2002 Share Posted June 26, 2002 - Herretics of Dune SPOILER ! -Didn't Miles Teg do some nice things with a stone burner ? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 In Dune Messiah stoneburner seems like a bomb, not hand-weapon. And also, WHO should carry NUCLEAR RIFLE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 Since it influence rather not very good on human body. Paul was not very close and looks what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander_Ordos Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 It's a bomb indeed but when detonated it sends nuclear blasts of melting fire in all directions. I don't really get the thing how it works, I guess it'll still have to be researched :), i mean it's far from atomic bomb of our days - much more precise and powerfull... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted June 28, 2002 Author Share Posted June 28, 2002 has anyone heard of automatic hand nuclear missile launcher ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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